Toys on a Budget
********** 6/7/98 4:54 PM Begin logging Sub Pub - D/s.
madden | hello there
êmbêr (owned) | hi :)
madden | its quite tonite
êmbêr (owned) | uh huh
êmbêr (owned) | <~waiting for NS to wake up <giggle>
madden | hows things with you?
êmbêr (owned) | fine thanks and u ?
*Night Spirit [HOST] | ok ok ok I am awake
*Night Spirit [HOST] | :)
êmbêr (owned) | <giggle>
êmbêr (owned) | wb NS huggggs
madden | great just finished work,good morning
*Night Spirit [HOST] | hugs hon..Lord E is on 2 accts?
Lady Excalibur (busy | good evening NS
Lord Excalibur | good evening all, come kneel beside me darling slave
Lord Excalibur | oh am I
Lord Excalibur | how come
*Night Spirit [HOST] | LOL
*Night Spirit [HOST] | I see a Lard E and Lady E
*Night Spirit [HOST] | Lord
Lord Excalibur | oh well looks like two bills again this month
*Night Spirit [HOST] | <--sheesh must learn to spell
Lord Excalibur | protecting my beloved from dickheads NS
*Night Spirit [HOST] | want 3 can pay mine :)
êmbêr (owned) | <blinks>
Lord Excalibur | lol
Lady Excalibur (busy | <s>
Lord Excalibur | how are you NS
*Night Spirit [HOST] | Lord E...NS is not a dickhead <ggl>...I am well
| been sick for a couple of days
*Night Spirit [HOST] | but am a whole lot better
Lord Excalibur | oh sorry to hear that, good
êmbêr (owned) | ooohhh NS.... nice new pics in the library!!!!
*Night Spirit [HOST] | there are?
Lady Excalibur (busy | good evening GPDS
êmbêr (owned) | you should put those on your website!!
GrandPaDeSade[Host] | You're back NS
Lord Excalibur | good evening GPDS
GrandPaDeSade[Host] | Evening LE
GrandPaDeSade[Host] | Both LE's
Lady Excalibur (busy | <s>
Lord Excalibur | <s>
Lady Excalibur (busy | oh dear this is not a good idea at all Master
GrandPaDeSade[Host] | Now I have to find new initials.
*Night Spirit [HOST] | I think they are on the sites one's on here
Eldersign | Evening, all.
*Night Spirit [HOST] | GrandPa want to hit 10 real quick?
Lord Excalibur | oh well my darling as we are here now you may
| change to LA (busy)
*Night Spirit [HOST] | hugs Elder <squeezes him tight>
êmbêr (owned) | <curtseys> hello GrandPaDeSade Sir :)
GrandPaDeSade[Host] | OK NS
Lady Excalibur (busy | yes M'lord...
Eldersign | :melts:
êmbêr (owned) | hello Eldersign Sir :))
GrandPaDeSade[Host] | Hello ember
Lord Excalibur | hi Elder
Lord Excalibur | hello ember
*mystic rain* | <walks in quietly>
*Night Spirit [HOST] | how about Excalibur's Lady
*mystic rain* | hello everyone <s>
*Night Spirit [HOST] | make it easier
Eldersign | Hugs, rain.
*Night Spirit [HOST] | hiya rain :)
êmbêr (owned) | hello Lord Excalibur
Lord Excalibur | Hi mr
êmbêr (owned) | hugggs mystic
*mystic rain* | huggs Elder sir
! PK' crickett | ~~~~~~~~~waving!
*mystic rain* | hello Ns
*Night Spirit [HOST] | hiya crickett :)
Lord Excalibur | hi PK c
êmbêr (owned) | hey cricky!
! PK' crickett | hi NS...how are you?
! PK' crickett | heyyyyy ember!
*mystic rain* | good eveing LESir
Eldersign | :notes that when he made coffee 30 minutes ago...he
| forgot
Eldersign | to turn it on:
*Night Spirit [HOST] | I hope everyone either records this or has pen and
| paper handy
Eldersign | :mutters:
Lord Excalibur | I think everyone knows she is my Lady NS <s>
Lord Excalibur | recording
! PK' crickett | <---recording
*Night Spirit [HOST] | I am ok crickett and yourself?
! PK' crickett | i am just fine NS
*mystic rain* | huggsss ember <s>
*mystic rain* | hey crick <s>
! PK' crickett | learned alot in cleveland <s>
! PK' crickett | ~~~~~waing at mc
*Night Spirit [HOST] | this should be fun tonight's topic is how to make
| and get inexpensive or
*Night Spirit [HOST] | make-it-yourself toys--in other words hardware/home
| depot shopping
! PK' crickett | waving too...sheezzz
êmbêr (owned) | excellent!
*Night Spirit [HOST] | now inexpensive I mean make or get a toy for under
| $10.00 american
! PK' crickett | ~~~~~waving at tina
*mystic rain* | <sits back quietly....listening>
Eldersign | :hugs tina:
*Night Spirit [HOST] | since we have a few here I am ready to start
*mystic rain* | hey tina...huggsss girl
*~tina~* | <walking in hand in hand with my Daddy>
Lord Excalibur | LA my dear read your privates
! PK' crickett | oppss sorry NS....
êmbêr (owned) | <curtseys> hello Spartan Sir :)
*mystic rain* | huggssss Spartan Sir
*~tina~* | waves to all the nice people <grin>
*Night Spirit [HOST] | hugs tina sweety and Spartan
Eldersign | :waves to Spartan:
*Spartan* | <smilin cause i couldnt be happier>.....A good
| evening to
*Spartan* | all........................
Lord Excalibur | hello tina and Spartan
*Night Spirit [HOST] | btw I want pictures from your NY gathering
*~tina~* | NS no one toook any...
*~tina~* | sorry
*Night Spirit [HOST] | we are discussing inexpensive toys or make it
| yourself for cheap
êmbêr (owned) | ugghh my neck still aches
*Night Spirit [HOST] | cheap
*Night Spirit [HOST] | ceap
Lord Excalibur | hi Erek and kisa
GrandPaDeSade[Host] | Hello again all
Lori | hi everyone
*~tina~* | waves to GranPa
êmbêr (owned) | w/b GrandPaDeSade Sir :)
Erek & kisa | That was interesting - anyone else have problems
| getting the forum to respond today???
*Night Spirit [HOST] | that too....I will start with wooden rulers, wooden
| spoons and dowlings for
*mystic rain* | good evening GRPA Sir
*Night Spirit [HOST] | spankings
GrandPaDeSade[Host] | cheep NS? Are you a chicken?
Lord Excalibur | no not here Erek
GrandPaDeSade[Host] | Hi tina
Erek & kisa | Greetings to all
*Night Spirit [HOST] | hugs Erek lately my DUN has been a mess today
*mystic rain* | ,sits back and listenes carefully>
GrandPaDeSade[Host] | Hello mystic.
*mystic rain* | s@ GRPa and NSs
! PK' crickett | me too mc.....<whispering>
*mystic rain* | sit with me crick......
*Night Spirit [HOST] | I bought some wooden spoons for 2 for a dollar and
| rulers can get about 4 for a
*Night Spirit [HOST] | dollar and dowling for spankings or make your own
| spreader bar are cheap also
! PK' crickett | oohh thanks mc.....Pk is SUPPOSE to be here <sighs>
*mystic rain* | aaaahhh....okay
*mystic rain* | s! crick
Lori | walks to bar to fix her own gin and tonic
! PK' crickett | but untill then......i will sit with you <s>
êmbêr (owned) | toys arent that expensive in England if you go to
| the right fetish faire's....
! PK' crickett | spreader bars? hmmmm how do you make those NS?
*mystic rain* | <sits back quietly and listens>]
Erek & kisa | dowling also makes good cores for handles on
| floggers - tho I reccomend wrapping it with leather
| or something to both
êmbêr (owned) | you can get spreader bars for like... $8.... cuffs
| for the same... also various crops for
êmbêr (owned) | the same...
*Night Spirit [HOST] | this is a Conferance on inexpensive toy making only
| that subject may be
*Night Spirit [HOST] | discussed at this time
Lynn | <sits with rain and listens>
Erek & kisa | improve the grip and cushion the delicate hand of
| the wielder <g>
êmbêr (owned) | huggs Lynn
Tony | boring!!!
*mystic rain* | huggss Lynn
Lynn | <S>
êmbêr (owned) | «°«°«´¯`·.¸>×Lynn×<¸.·´¯`»°»°» :)
*~tina~* | you know NS.....we have used a sponge with a
| scouring side in our play....only
*~tina~* | a few dollars...and quite a nice affect when used
| in the proper places and time
*~tina~* | <g>
*Spartan* | tony and hugh, u r invited to leave as a conference
| is going on , and children
*Spartan* | like urselves need to be in bed, fast asleep...<s>
Lynn | huggs sis's <s>
GrandPaDeSade[Host] | Dowling makes good spreader bars. Cut to length,
| eye bolts in ends
*Night Spirit [HOST] | tina how does it feel?
! PK' crickett | ok i see Grand PA
*Night Spirit [HOST] | and where is proper
*Spartan* | <wink>...Ns
Erek & kisa | GdPa - Yes it does, but be careful about not using
| too small and eyebolt - which means a slightly
| larger diameter dowl
MoL's Katie J | <the sheepdog is back .. sorry I'm late
êmbêr (owned) | «°«°«´¯`·.¸>×katie J hon×<¸.·´¯`»°»°»
Erek & kisa | HUgs KJ
*~tina~* | wonderful NS.......what I seem to like most about
| it , is after a flogger or
*~tina~* | crop etc......on my feet....Spartan might use it
| then.........on my feet........
GrandPaDeSade[Host] | I use ine inch diameter dowling
*Night Spirit [HOST] | hugs Katie sweety
*mystic rain* | quietly huggs katie
Lord Excalibur | hi Katie
GrandPaDeSade[Host] | One even
êmbêr (owned) | <purrring> lol
*Night Spirit [HOST] | ok other ideas for making your own toys
MoL's Katie J | <hugs to everyone <s>
*Spartan* | have found that varied sizes of cosmetic brushes as
| well as diff textures of
*Spartan* | nil files and emory boards can produce some
| wonderful
*Spartan* | effects....................................
Lynn | <s>huggs Katie
êmbêr (owned) | washing pegs for clover clamps....
êmbêr (owned) | hmmm....
! PK' crickett | washing pegs?
Erek & kisa | If you are reasinably good at leather work - check
| the local leather stores for their "Scrape bin"
| pieces
Lynn | clothes pins
! PK' crickett | clover clamps?
Lynn | crickie
! PK' crickett | is that an english term?
Eldersign | Most hardware stores sell lightweight aluminum
| chain in
Eldersign | various sizes and fancy patterns...it's easy to
| work and
Eldersign | very comfy.
Lynn | nipple clamps
êmbêr (owned) | not sure what you call them over there lol
*~tina~* | you mean clothes pics?
Lynn | ember..
*Night Spirit [HOST] | clothes pins good idea, we got these loose ones 60
| for $1.00
*~tina~* | pins
! PK' crickett | oohh ok got it lynn...
êmbêr (owned) | you use them to hang your laudry on the line with...
Erek & kisa | these can be cut into strips and used either as the
| flails of a flogger or as wraps on the handles
Lynn | yes tina
*Spartan* | one of the best i adore is using small sized vise
| grips as nipple clamps, as
GrandPaDeSade[Host] | Bubble wrap covered with a condom makes a nice
| imprompto dildo.
*Spartan* | they also carry a little weight to them, ends have
| teeth effects, and are
*Spartan* | *very* adjustable.....<wink>......................
êmbêr (owned) | ouch
êmbêr (owned) | lol
*~tina~* | <giggle>
Lynn | yikes.. i think i'm not ready for this
*Spartan* | clothespins and thin string, about 20 attached then
| zipper them
*Spartan* | off.............................
! PK' crickett | two clamp dog leads work well too...and are heavy
*Night Spirit [HOST] | Spartan about what size of vice grip?
Erek & kisa | Where a side of leather will often go for over
| $100, you can picl thru the bin and the same amount
| of leather in smaller pieces..
Erek & kisa | for less the 1.3 of that.
Erek & kisa | 1/3
*~tina~* | thats a good idea Erek
Lord Excalibur | Hugh either comment with the conference or bugger
| off
MoL's Katie J | I think Hugh had another appointment to keep <G>
*Spartan* | small ones about 3-4 inches in length, weigh just
| about 4-6
*Spartan* | oz...................................NS...
Lynn | hugh is gone
MoL's Katie J | nice shot <s>
Lord Excalibur | good
*~tina~* | lol
*Night Spirit [HOST] | yes Hugh had to go
! PK' crickett | <----has lots of pet stuff to play with <laffen>
! PhantomKnight | <glides in for conference>
êmbêr (owned) | i saw a "toy" i have never seen before today....
*Night Spirit [HOST] | crickett such as?
êmbêr (owned) | very intrigued
Lynn | night friends <s>
! PK' crickett | the leads......
*~tina~* | what was it ember?
*Night Spirit [HOST] | Night Lynn
Lord Excalibur | what was that ember
GrandPaDeSade[Host] | what ember?
! PhantomKnight | leads?
Erek & kisa | Fishing wieghts are another neat and inexpensive
| idea
*Night Spirit [HOST] | yes ember?
êmbêr (owned) | thumb clamps/cuffs...
Erek & kisa | they now come in sevral shapes and often have their
| exact wieght stamped on them
êmbêr (owned) | not seen them before... it was a different feeling
| than actually handcuffs
MoL's Katie J | Welcome to our conference on homemade toys
| ... you are welcome to
MoL's Katie J | contribute on the subject <s>
*Night Spirit [HOST] | those are a tiny bit dangerous--be careful with
| them..not built well and lock up
*Night Spirit [HOST] | <--used to sell them
GrandPaDeSade[Host] | Jonny, stay on subject or leave
Erek & kisa | also they often have their own rings embedded in
| them <g>
*Spartan* | the obvious, ice cubes and candle
*Spartan* | waxing............................................
êmbêr (owned) | ah right... i was curious about them...
*Night Spirit [HOST] | Jonny the topic is toys and only toys--no dating
! PhantomKnight | crick...what all do you have?
êmbêr (owned) | oooh you know what i heard... not sure if i should
| say it here...
! PhantomKnight | say it ember
*~tina~* | <listening>
êmbêr (owned) | ok... if anyone ha an allergic reaction to this
| stuff ... then dont do it...
êmbêr (owned) | deepheat... hot massage rub...
*Night Spirit [HOST] | using it how ember
MoL's Katie J | hey, gang, I take the strays in sends .. so give me
| a chance, ok <s>
*Spartan* | <shush>............hhhmmmmmm
Erek & kisa | ember - we use Tigerbalm <veg>
*Spartan* | <wink>....NS................
fit to be tied | <slipping in quietly.....>
*Night Spirit [HOST] | <--longs to hug that wooley body Spartan
êmbêr (owned) | you fill an ice cube tray with water.. just half
| way up and allow it to set...
êmbêr (owned) | then
GrandPaDeSade[Host] | Hi fit.
! PhantomKnight | hi fit
GrandPaDeSade[Host] | Watch it NS
*Spartan* | folsom hon, folsom....<g>.......
fit to be tied | hiya GrPa
êmbêr (owned) | you squeeze the deepheat in blobs into the middle
| of the ice cubes...
*Night Spirit [HOST] | yeah but you aren't spending the night here <sigh>
fit to be tied | hugs PK
êmbêr (owned) | then your freeze the rest of the water on top...
*mystic rain* | <slips quietly back in>
êmbêr (owned) | apparently the feeling of the ice melting turning
| red hot with the deep heat is
êmbêr (owned) | amazing
fit to be tied | <nudging KJ....>.. what;s the topic hun...<blonde
| look>
MoL's Katie J | sounds wicked, ember
MoL's Katie J | fit, Welcome to our conference on homemade toys ...
| you are welcome to
MoL's Katie J | contribute on the subject <s>
fit to be tied | <snicker>
! PK' crickett | <glares at fit.....> i think that was the RED look!
êmbêr (owned) | but only to be used in the right places and onthe
| right people... could be dangerous
fit to be tied | <blowing kisses at crick>
sottovoce | Hello all
! PK' crickett | lol
*Night Spirit [HOST] | ember have you ever tried it?
êmbêr (owned) | huggs fit :)
fit to be tied | hugs ember....and congrats hun
êmbêr (owned) | no NS... have tried the deep heat on its own.. but
| not frozen in ice hon
*Night Spirit [HOST] | I know using close-up toothpaste during oral sex
| can be--awakening
êmbêr (owned) | thanks fit (bought my collar today) <SSSS>
Erek & kisa | ember - Good point about allergies - you should try
| these sports creams.pastes etc on a small patch of
| skin before ...
Erek & kisa | proceeding to regualr use
êmbêr (owned) | yep....
*Night Spirit [HOST] | anyone this of birch
*Spartan* | cling wrap........as a binding tool..........using
| a diluted amount of cinnamon
*Spartan* | oil spread over the body prior to
*Spartan* | wrapping............................................
| ..
*Night Spirit [HOST] | this=think of brich limps
*~tina~* | <--had a horribale reaction once long ago...from
| those heated body oils....
fit to be tied | yikes.... not that saran wrap again
GrandPaDeSade[Host] | A pair of the large (two foot) chopsticks and sone
| elastic hair ties make a
GrandPaDeSade[Host] | cheap tit wringer.
*mystic rain* | ohhhh.....might like sarah wrap!
*Night Spirit [HOST] | Spartan enlighten us why the use of the cinnamon oil
Erek & kisa | We use Tigerbalm as a lube on the insertables
| occasionally - seems to have several interesting
| effects
êmbêr (owned) | i saw professionally designed "Bondage Tape" in
| London today
êmbêr (owned) | i tried it on my wrists...
*Spartan* | well hon, it depends on the *spot* u use
| it...........<wink>...some are *much*
*Spartan* | more sensitive in those spots........
êmbêr (owned) | was very impressed
*~tina~* | how was it ember?
*~tina~* | yes Daddy <smile>
êmbêr (owned) | Woooaahhh Erek & kisa....
*mystic rain* | <listening carefully>
*Night Spirit [HOST] | we bought a electric fly swatter to zap your flys
| with----will give you ideas
*Night Spirit [HOST] | here'
Shady Lady | ace bandages are always good,if that has not been
| mentioned,yet
*Night Spirit [HOST] | good idea SL and welcome hon
*~tina~* | <perK........making a note NS
Erek & kisa | NS - a plaine ole 9V transistor battery can do it
| too
*Spartan* | 150 cinn oil has a wonderful heat effect at slow
| rising......200 needs to be
*Spartan* | diluted...........<remembering tina yelping at its
| application in a special
*Spartan* | spot>.....lol, watching her sit on the sink
| splashin water...................oh
*Spartan* | my.....sorry sweetheart...
Erek & kisa | A lick and a promise <g>
*Night Spirit [HOST] | Erek used how
êmbêr (owned) | ah NS... today i saw a professionally designed
| paddle with electrical charge in it just
êmbêr (owned) | like that today.... for like... $6
GrandPaDeSade[Host] | I'll show you NS
*Spartan* | in the restaurant.....................lol
*~tina~* | <giggles>......
*Night Spirit [HOST] | that's it ember
! PhantomKnight | <taking notes....9 volt batt huh?>
êmbêr (owned) | can i ask a question?
*Night Spirit [HOST] | you can buy these round cirlce with screws and
| insert into the walls to clip
*Night Spirit [HOST] | subs to
*Night Spirit [HOST] | yes ember always :)
GrandPaDeSade[Host] | Note- Careful with electricity above the waist.
Erek & kisa | PK - I do recommend a used one - the new ones can
| nearly burn - But try it on your tongue first - if
| you can handle it, the sub can
êmbêr (owned) | how much do toys cost over there? (In the
| States).... a few examples maybe?
GrandPaDeSade[Host] | Use both leads on the same breast
êmbêr (owned) | It seems English toys are cheap
GrandPaDeSade[Host] | Not one on each. the path will be through the heart.
fit to be tied | OMG...YIKESSSSS.. not THAT again
! PK' crickett | what are you taking notes on?
! PhantomKnight | hehe.....guess dear
*Night Spirit [HOST] | I buy floggers from $10-$300
! PK' crickett | oohhhh that looks binding!
Erek & kisa | NEVER pass current *thru the heart area - Tens and
| other toys should not have the leads in two areas
| that cross the heart!!!
*Spartan* | oh katie..........::::::blush::::::::
Lord Excalibur | but some are very poorly made ember
! PK' crickett | i dont know ...........what are you talking notes
| ON!
*Night Spirit [HOST] | yes people were selling mylar rolls and packing
| wrap for fun and games
! PhantomKnight | 9 volt batts crick....
Eldersign | :paid 85.00 for a NICE flogger today...soft,
| thickened
Eldersign | suede, with a fancy finished wooden handle.
*Night Spirit [HOST] | good caution Erek
Lord Excalibur | that sounds like toybags stuff Elder
êmbêr (owned) | may i recommend a website for floggers and paddles?
êmbêr (owned) | lol
êmbêr (owned) | yes that one Lord E
*Night Spirit [HOST] | ember you can in sends only
êmbêr (owned) | too late lol
*Night Spirit [HOST] | they rules here no websites
Eldersign | Yup...very similar, but Toybag wanted 139 for it.,
*Spartan* | <has seen his doeskin flogger, 125 1/2 inch tines,
| butter soft 36 inch length
*Spartan* | for $600>.......................
Lord Excalibur | <zipping mouth>
*Night Spirit [HOST] | let's get back to making our own
! PK' crickett | these are cheap things?????????
*Spartan* | tho a friend makes all my stuff at a much reduced
*Spartan* | cost>.....................................
*Night Spirit [HOST] | and cost under $10.00
Erek & kisa | kisa is a good detail person (artists are like that
| I guess) and we have sweveral floggers that she has
| made --- they
*mystic rain* | ,<sitting quietly....taking notes>
Erek & kisa | seem to me to be better quality than most of what's
| for sale out there
*Night Spirit [HOST] | I have one I like I get a ton of ice cream sticks
| and put on or in a sub and
*Night Spirit [HOST] | flog them but they can't drop any
*Night Spirit [HOST] | then toss them after play
Erek & kisa | SO again - get to a leather working class and learn
| to make your own
! PK' crickett | scrolling back to see where batteries were used...
êmbêr (owned) | you can mae your own flogger by doing a kind of
| noose type knot with thin rope...
GrandPaDeSade[Host] | An athletic belt with elastic and velcro, to hold
| neoprene padding (3/4 in
GrandPaDeSade[Host] | thick, such as sleeping bag mat) in place, makes a
| good lower back/kidney
GrandPaDeSade[Host] | protector.
Erek & kisa | crickett - nipples are good <eg>
GrandPaDeSade[Host] | About $30
! PhantomKnight | did you know that ice can feel just like a hot
| iron?....
*Night Spirit [HOST] | oh good idea ember, thin rope can knot it or string
| thru metal beads and flog
MoL's Katie J | I like rope, myself .. like the bra I had written
| about, Grandpa <G>
GrandPaDeSade[Host] | That works too Katie
Eldersign | :grins at PK: Blindfold her, and tell her you have
| a cigarette
Eldersign | lighter...light it so she can hear it, and hold a
| piece of ice to
Eldersign | her nipple.
êmbêr (owned) | yup... a sub friend of mine showed me how to make
| my own flogger last night.. it
êmbêr (owned) | was amazing... just some simple thin rope and a
| noose knot
! PhantomKnight | yep.....
*Night Spirit [HOST] | or braiding thin rope pieces to make a flogger
! PK' crickett | you ass elder....not funny
GrandPaDeSade[Host] | Try knoting the strands of rope too ember
Eldersign | Crick..it's hilarious.
! PK' crickett | no its not...that mental meaness
Eldersign | Exactly. :quiet;
Erek & kisa | Elder -t hat kind of fear play was subject of a
| long trial
! PhantomKnight | or put a hot iron on ice.........then put the ice
| to her.......tell her it is the
! PhantomKnight | iron......she will think it is
! PK' crickett | no dont think so
*Night Spirit [HOST] | crickett want to hear my favorite--PK please
| note--put 3 tiny super bouncing
*Night Spirit [HOST] | balls in an area have the squat over a cup and drop
| one in the cup :)
*Night Spirit [HOST] | if not re-insert
êmbêr (owned) | you know an old Master of mine.. showed me a knife,
| blindfolded me... and then
êmbêr (owned) | used a butter knife to "cut" me... when i thought
| he was cutting me with the sharp
êmbêr (owned) | knife....
! PK' crickett | hahaha NS
! PhantomKnight | <saw this on an episode of Gunsmoke>
fit to be tied | Gunsmoke?
! PhantomKnight | <the ice and branding iron thing>
! PK' crickett | what was that katie a sheep?
*Night Spirit [HOST] | <--is exciting going to see an expert in
| interrogation tomorrow night
GrandPaDeSade[Host] | Elder, get some raw hamberger, a habachi, and a can
| of frozen orange jusc. Tell
GrandPaDeSade[Host] | sub you're going to brand them. Throw raw meat on
| habachi at same time you
GrandPaDeSade[Host] | touch them with frozed orange juce can.
fit to be tied | ...... never thought of westerns as educational
! PhantomKnight | yeah...some kids were initiating another......but
| he had a heart attack
*Spartan* | <looking across the desk at my little one, then
| towards the closet where *the
*Spartan* | bag* resides, hoping she knows just what all this
| talk is stirring within me,
*Spartan* | and wonder if she realizes what she might be in for
| in a bit>...........
Eldersign | Woo.
Eldersign | :makes note:
êmbêr (owned) | woah GrPa....
! PK' crickett | that will be a good one tell explain to john...PK
! PK' crickett | she had a heartattack while i was branding her
*Night Spirit [HOST] | ok other inexpensive ideas?
GrandPaDeSade[Host] | You really can't tell hot from cold under those
| conditions.
GrandPaDeSade[Host] | PK, that is always possible.
! PhantomKnight | that is my point Grand
*Night Spirit [HOST] | oh I know tiny paper lick clips
GrandPaDeSade[Host] | But then she could while you were driving too.
Eldersign | Potato chip clips.
MoL's Katie J | lick clips?
Eldersign | :grin:
*Night Spirit [HOST] | oh yeah and those hair clips with teeth
MoL's Katie J | yeow!
GrandPaDeSade[Host] | I know Phantom
GrandPaDeSade[Host] | Just telling the others
Erek & kisa | Duct tape - for those allergic to the adhesive, use
| a old Tshirt and tape it doen tight, real tight <g>
Eldersign | Oh...and as far as paddles...you can find cutting
| boards
Eldersign | now for pennies, that can be made into real nice
| paddles
Eldersign | with a minimum of trimming.
êmbêr (owned) | <sighs> <misses her Master> :(
*Night Spirit [HOST] | and ping pong paddles
! PK' crickett | yeah yeah yeah...i can see PK telling john
GrandPaDeSade[Host] | PK, all you can do is take the best precautions
| possible.
*~tina~* | those are great NS.......the rough surface on them
! PhantomKnight | I know Grand
Eldersign | Kimmie NH was telling me about an interesting toy.
! PhantomKnight | tell us Elder
êmbêr (owned) | she has many lol
*Night Spirit [HOST] | yes Elder?
*Night Spirit [HOST] | <--has a few toys
Eldersign | You take a good sized wire hair brush...and trim
| off the
Eldersign | bristles about a quarter inch long.
Eldersign | And...use it as a paddle.
êmbêr (owned) | ouchy
GrandPaDeSade[Host] | Much of what we do could scare someone like that PK.
*Night Spirit [HOST] | I have a stick with sandpaper on one side and rope
| on the other
Eldersign | Add a nice touch like an antiseptic alcohol rub
| after, and it
Eldersign | gets real interesting.
! PhantomKnight | yes Grand......I agree...we have to be careful
Erek & kisa | That would flay skin - if you want to hairbrush
| paddle someone - just use a regular hairbrush,
| works well either side <g>
! PK' crickett | i am not scared...just cant see him explaining
| it...thats all
! PhantomKnight | can food be classified as a toy?
*Night Spirit [HOST] | of course cheap ties are scarves or neckties can
| buy in 2nd hand stores
! PK' crickett | oohhh food ...yummy!
*mystic rain* | <slings back
| silihgttly.........watchijg;;;;sligytly]]
êmbêr (owned) | an interesting substitute for a ball gag.... is a
| small apple.. bitten into then a piece of
êmbêr (owned) | tape across the face <~once had that done to me
| with a lemon <ewwwwww>
*Night Spirit [HOST] | PK depends how you use it
*Spartan* | oh my NS, <shocked look>....and what in the world
| would anyone want to do with
*Spartan* | a toy like that, <innocent boyish
| look>...............................
! PhantomKnight | what about M&M's?...lol
*mystic rain* | oooooooooooooooooooooooooo
*Night Spirit [HOST] | ember good idea
! PK' crickett | hee hee
Erek & kisa | Veggetable Domming!?!?!?
*mystic rain* | gooing noow.......
! PhantomKnight | you can Tease real good with M&M's
! PhantomKnight | mr...you leaving?
GrandPaDeSade[Host] | Bye mystic
! PK' crickett | oooooo leomons........yuck!
*~tina~* | lol..I think I might like that ember.....lol
*Night Spirit [HOST] | Spartan I love a man in a suit removed his necktie
| and ties my hands then
! PhantomKnight | what about limes crick?
*Night Spirit [HOST] | proceeds to attck me, and not removed his pants
| just drops them slightly
êmbêr (owned) | exactly... but it was a punishment cricky
! PK' crickett | yuck..limes?
*Spartan* | and let's not forget the good ole favorite <for
| that ...cant ever get full enuf
*Spartan* | feeling.....>........golf balls..............
! PhantomKnight | crick...have you ever done body shots?
êmbêr (owned) | ah yessss NS... love that!
*~tina~* | hehheee
*Night Spirit [HOST] | go away spartan whatcha do with golf balls
! PK' crickett | nooooooo i am good ....hhhmmmmm if i have PK i dont
| remember...LOL
*~tina~* | lol
êmbêr (owned) | <looks @ Spartan and faints>
fit to be tied | <laffin>
! PhantomKnight | tequilla....limes...salt.....and body parts....lol
*Night Spirit [HOST] | <--is going nuts--GrPa was in a suit yesterday
| <yummy>
*Night Spirit [HOST] | body shots?
êmbêr (owned) | <~love a man in a suit
*Spartan* | inverted suspention, and start
| stuffin..............<wink>......but cant let
*Spartan* | any pop out.........except when asked for
| ..........NS....................<efg>
fit to be tied | <PERK>
! PK' crickett | yuck teqyilla...never NEVER give me that .!!!!
| <laffen>
*Night Spirit [HOST] | <ggl>
êmbêr (owned) | ooo love body shots!!!! they can be... umm
| interesting <WEFG?
! PhantomKnight | oh body shots are fuuuunnnnnnn
*Spartan* | one at a time.....pure muscle
| control...................
! PhantomKnight | it starts with licking
*Night Spirit [HOST] | <--used to like them when I could drink
! PhantomKnight | crick....why not teq?
GrandPaDeSade[Host] | Swim goggles with the lens painted black make good
| blindfolds.
Erek & kisa | say bye bye
! PK' crickett | hahaha PK ...you DONT WANT TO KNOW!
! PhantomKnight | YES I do
! PK' crickett | nnoo you dont!
êmbêr (owned) | <~near pee'ing myself laffing
! PhantomKnight | <can think of things to do with the bottle too>
! PK' crickett | oohhh god
Shady Lady | cool idea,GrandPa
êmbêr (owned) | well... for a blindfold... just use a flight
| mask... you know one of those ya get when
êmbêr (owned) | you fly for you to sleep... just ight the elastic
| <S>
*Spartan* | <pout>..no one liked the golf balls...<looking down
| n kickin dirt with sneaker
*Spartan* | tip>............
! PhantomKnight | lol Spartan....tell us
*~tina~* | <wavin arm...I did I did>
Eldersign | Specialized talent, Spartan. :grin:
fit to be tied | Spartan...I liked the golfballs
Shady Lady | stuff her with fruit,Spartan,,,,then have as a
| snack <eg>
êmbêr (owned) | brb a sec :)
! PK' crickett | hhmmm i have golf balls
! PhantomKnight | YUMMMY SL
MoL's Katie J | I found it an interesting demonstration
*Spartan* | sending light kisses to my little one
Shady Lady | : )
*~tina~* | gawd I love that woam?!!!<wink SL>
*Night Spirit [HOST] | oh anyone ever make an ice cream sundae on someone
| then eat it?
*~tina~* | woman too
Shady Lady | Mmmmmmmm kisses,tina
! PhantomKnight | how bout doing that with a banana?
*Spartan* | oh SL, thats desert, every thurs night.....<wink>..
! PK' crickett | ooohhh bananas!!!!!!!
fit to be tied | <thinking cold....>
! PhantomKnight | and to think I had some with me crick
! PK' crickett | yeah frozesn ones fit!
Shady Lady | ummmm <cutting watermelons,peaches,,,,> ULing to
| tina& Spartan
! PK' crickett | ooohh NOW you TELL me!!!
*~tina~* | lollol
! PK' crickett | geee thanks Phantom
MoL's Katie J | brb
! PhantomKnight | told you the next morn
fit to be tied | really dislikes cold
! PhantomKnight | you ate one remember
! PK' crickett | no you didnt...you said you had bagels
! PhantomKnight | and I gave you a banana
êmbêr (owned) | <~runs back in :)
! PK' crickett | i did? noooo i didnt
! PhantomKnight | you ate it
! PK' crickett | when?
*Night Spirit [HOST] | you know we should plan to have dinner during
| Folsom on a slave
Shady Lady | Mmmmmmmmm NS
fit to be tied | will you two bicker else where...
êmbêr (owned) | <perks>
! PhantomKnight | chocolate syrup on a sub is good too
Erek & kisa | You have to be carefu; about frozen stuff - where
| ice will melt against the body, a frozen banana
| might freese to the flesh
Shady Lady | Male slave with pinapple <s>
*Spartan* | have her lay on her back , then prop het back up
| with pillows n her leggs back
*Spartan* | towards her head,, fill up with about 15 ice cubes,
| then stimulate till a
*Spartan* | volcano affect occurs.....<just watch ur face if
| too close>...........
! PK' crickett | i dont remember bananas...i think you have me
| confused with someone else
*Night Spirit [HOST] | ok who can do the old banana trick?
*~tina~* | <---volunteers to help place the meal very
| acessibly NS
êmbêr (owned) | if anyone wants to know the web site for details
| about the folsem st. faire i have
êmbêr (owned) | one... see me in sends :)
*~tina~* | <ggigles......again>
Erek & kisa | and that would possibly mean ripping the skin - so
| a little thiught about what cold frozen object one
| places where, please.
*Spartan* | sorta like a martini shaken, not stired........
! PhantomKnight | Spartan does that really work?
*Spartan* | oh my yes
fit to be tied | <cringing involuntarily>
! PhantomKnight | hmmmmm
*~tina~* | <wink> PK...kinda suprised me too
*Night Spirit [HOST] | ember I am having a party during it and the links
| on my site are all the events
*Night Spirit [HOST] | up to date
! PhantomKnight | let;s see...batteries....ice.......what else?
*Night Spirit [HOST] | Erek before I do frozen like ice cubes I lick it
| and get it wet and no sharp
*Night Spirit [HOST] | edges
Erek & kisa | PK - Again I highly reccommned Tigerbalm
GrandPaDeSade[Host] | One male slave meal, and one female slave meal.
êmbêr (owned) | party? <giggles> woooo
*Spartan* | <obvious Erek>........
! PK' crickett | tigerbalm?
! PK' crickett | what is that?
! PhantomKnight | or fill up with M&M's and eat them out......
êmbêr (owned) | oooo it feels lovely
êmbêr (owned) | tigerbalm is great
Erek & kisa | crickett - a highly mentholated and sometimes
| cinnamon sports cream - very HOT
! PK' crickett | oohhh ok
êmbêr (owned) | its yummy <S>
êmbêr (owned) | especially when rubbed on the right places
! PhantomKnight | what about feathers?.........they are cheap
êmbêr (owned) | :ox
*Spartan* | <------ still likes 150 cinn oil on the clit....200
| too hot.....oh
*Spartan* | my.......<goose bumps>......
*Night Spirit [HOST] | PK good idea I love those fluffy ones
GrandPaDeSade[Host] | Ever snap rubber bands on a nipple. interesting
| reactions. . .
MoL's Katie J | back
! PhantomKnight | LOL....what about alarm clocks crick?
Erek & kisa | Spartan - cinnamon oil always reminds me of HS ---
| painting the visiting teams john seats
! PK' crickett | <perk> hell i tried Phantom....just was early enough
! PK' crickett | was=wasnt
*~tina~* | rofl...Erek...you sadist
GrandPaDeSade[Host] | Golf balls make good gags too. Drill through then,
| rin twin through.
Erek & kisa | tine - Ahyup <g>
! PhantomKnight | I mean Real alarm clocks crick
*Night Spirit [HOST] | Erek a sadist......no
GrandPaDeSade[Host] | rin=run
! PK' crickett | what about it Phantom?
*~tina~* | lol
*Spartan* | lol...........how about soaking their jocks n cups
| in it then letting it dry,
*Spartan* | midway thru the game when they really start
*Spartan* | sweating.........YYYEEEOOOOWWWWW................hot
| hot hot..................<g>
! PhantomKnight | .they can scare the hell outta a sub....LOL
*mystic rain* | <,,walks quiietly back in......>
! PhantomKnight | especially when she is standing Right next to it
| when it goes off
GrandPaDeSade[Host] | WB mystic
êmbêr (owned) | w/b mystic
*Spartan* | <lookin at them do that funky dance>...
! PK' crickett | oohhh shit <embarrassed> shit i hate load
| noises..ok shoot me...
*~tina~* | kinda of a side thing.....but incense.........is a
| wonderful addition to any
êmbêr (owned) | LOL I can imagine PK....
*~tina~* | scene
! PhantomKnight | ROFL
Erek & kisa | Spartan - tough to get at those, where it was easy
| to do the seats
*mystic rain* | sorry to come back so late <ss>
! PhantomKnight | it was soooooo funny
! PK' crickett | i was nervous...it scared me....
*Night Spirit [HOST] | hiya again mr
*Spartan* | <looked good in the movie>...<shrug>.....
! PK' crickett | no it wasnt...
MoL's Katie J | <put itching powder in medevil singer's tights
Erek & kisa | They sit, they sweat the run for the showers -
| which only makes it worse btw
! PhantomKnight | YES it was
! PK' crickett | NO it wasnt.......i about died
! PhantomKnight | LOL
GrandPaDeSade[Host] | If you split an inner tube, it makes a stingy
| rubber flogger too.
Erek & kisa | <== musta been the only kid around kept tomatoe
| juice in my locker <gA>
*Night Spirit [HOST] | <--was a very bad girl in school put shaved
| fiberglass on certain folks
*Night Spirit [HOST] | underpants and bras
! PhantomKnight | ewwww NS
! PhantomKnight | that HURTS
êmbêr (owned) | oh my .. i thought when you said inner... you meant
| like... a body tube....
*~tina~* | ohmy NS.............................OHMY
! PK' crickett | eeewwww fiber glass?!?!!? ouch!
! PhantomKnight | crick.....do you like feathers?
*Spartan* | bitch ...NS.....<god, now i know why i luvs
*Spartan* | ya>..................................<wink>.........
| ....lol
*Night Spirit [HOST] | remember old iching powder used to be shaved
| fiberglass now it is horse hair
GrandPaDeSade[Host] | NS, tell them about the time I put too much iceyhot
| on the dildoe
GrandPaDeSade[Host] | No a bike inner tube
! PK' crickett | <VBS> yes i like feathers
êmbêr (owned) | using alcohol on the body is so stimulating....
! PhantomKnight | <S>
*Night Spirit [HOST] | Spartan you should see how I play subbie sticks
! PhantomKnight | hmmm ...alcoho;
*Spartan* | ROAR..............................................
êmbêr (owned) | i think the best was bloody mary
*~tina~* | lighting it is interesting too ember.......dont you
| agree
! PK' crickett | <-----likes roses better.............as a toy
! PhantomKnight | lighting?
! PhantomKnight | roses?
êmbêr (owned) | with lots of tabasco lol
fit to be tied | <perk>
! PhantomKnight | how so ?
*Spartan* | thorns
Erek & kisa | brb
! PK' crickett | nope the petals
! PhantomKnight | ohhhhh
fit to be tied | naw... these didnt have any thorns... too bad really
*~tina~* | lighting alcohol PK......
êmbêr (owned) | umm never tried it
êmbêr (owned) | cant say i'd want to really...
*~tina~* | very carefully though....
Eldersign | <= Don't do fire play
êmbêr (owned) | <~not into any kind of... umm terror play
*~tina~* | <--loves hot/cold play.....including fire play
*Night Spirit [HOST] | <--does fireplay but only with this Domme who
| teaches fire safety
GrandPaDeSade[Host] | <==Loves to see NS ablaze
fit to be tied | ablaze?
êmbêr (owned) | <cringes>
êmbêr (owned) | i really should be in bed....
! PhantomKnight | <not into scare play>
*Night Spirit [HOST] | oh man it is wonderful
êmbêr (owned) | 2am :(
Erek & kisa | bak - did I mis much?
GrandPaDeSade[Host] | Carefully controlled, small areas, no burn to her.
! PK' crickett | good neither am i...
*Night Spirit [HOST] | not too much
MoL's Katie J | Fireplay, Erek & kisa
*Night Spirit [HOST] | I have never been burned during fireplay
êmbêr (owned) | ok all...am off to beddy byes...
Erek & kisa | Good - not our thing at all --- one of MY limits <e>
! PhantomKnight | nit ember
GrandPaDeSade[Host] | Just a slight warm feeling.
fit to be tied | nite ember
MoL's Katie J | g'nite, Seddy, luv
*Night Spirit [HOST] | although I did the otherday with the violet wand
| getting pictures taken
*Night Spirit [HOST] | <grumble>
êmbêr (owned) | <curtseys the Doms, huggs the subbies>
*Night Spirit [HOST] | Night ember
GrandPaDeSade[Host] | Night ember
Erek & kisa | G'nite ember
êmbêr (owned) | kissiesss n smoochiees katie hon
*Night Spirit [HOST] | ok we all miseed candle play
GrandPaDeSade[Host] | I let this dom try it on me too.
*Night Spirit [HOST] | it is inexpensive
GrandPaDeSade[Host] | Only warm
! PK' crickett | ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~```waving bye to ember
*Night Spirit [HOST] | anyone here like wax play?
fit to be tied | <raising her hand>
*~tina~* | <---educates myself in all asp[ects of our
| play......
Erek & kisa | Wax and candls were mentioned earlier - but we were
| all talking and it slipped by
! PK' crickett | <----played with as a kid
Eldersign | Birthday candles, maybe.
! PhantomKnight | <nor into pain play...not major pain....have tried
| to see what is
! PhantomKnight | stimulating about pain when I have been in pain and
| find no
! PhantomKnight | connection>
! PhantomKnight | played with what crick?
GrandPaDeSade[Host] | Doesn't work that way for everyone PK
MoL's Katie J | PK, I thought the same .. but MoL taught me
| differently <S>
*Night Spirit [HOST] | candles best ones have little prfume and are soft
| and less colour the better
! PhantomKnight | how so Kaite?
! PK' crickett | thats just with those stupid vines
| Phantom....<chuckling>
! PhantomKnight | LOL
*Night Spirit [HOST] | hard candles burn too hot and are dangerous
Erek & kisa | NS - Low melting points
! PhantomKnight | now That hurt
fit to be tied | do not use bees wax
! PK' crickett | <laffen> i know
GrandPaDeSade[Host] | Never beeswax
! PK' crickett | try that damn lizard i have...it hurts MORE
GrandPaDeSade[Host] | Never use a candle that say it has a hardner in it.
| - burns hotter.
*Night Spirit [HOST] | actually cheap candles that feel soft are usually
| best for this type of play
! PhantomKnight | doubt that
Erek & kisa | Votive styel are just about right - warmer tray
| candles
*Night Spirit [HOST] | I agree Erek--esp the ones without perfume
*Night Spirit [HOST] | Doms before pouring on sub try on self see where it
| is safe to pour
*Night Spirit [HOST] | and what level
! PhantomKnight | you know......candles and ice can be just like the
| hot iron and
! PhantomKnight | ice.......drip the ice on ..telling sub it is the
| hot wax
Erek & kisa | Be careful of some colors also - the tincture can
| get real hot and stay hot
*Night Spirit [HOST] | good idea PK
! PhantomKnight | same sensation as hot wax but no burns
*Night Spirit [HOST] | right Erek......why should try it first
*Night Spirit [HOST] | ok any last words?
GrandPaDeSade[Host] | Playing with the mind is such fun. . .
! PhantomKnight | yeah......be careful............
*~tina~* | thank everyone......great ideas from all here
| tonight
wry§ilk | I was late.. huggggs and kissssses to all.. <s>
GrandPaDeSade[Host] | Try on yourself first if you are not sure.
Erek & kisa | Hello and hugs wry
*Night Spirit [HOST] | hugsx wry--next week is on training methods
fit to be tied | huggsss wry wry
GrandPaDeSade[Host] | A wise dom doesn't berak their toys.
MoL's Katie J | Thanks for all your contributions .... I learned a
| lot this evening <S>
*Night Spirit [HOST] | everyone bring your ideas on how to train a new sub
| or if a sub how you want to
*Night Spirit [HOST] | be trained
fit to be tied | <hmmmm..... hoping she is off the plane by then>
Erek & kisa | Protect the property - usaually a very good rule
| and sound advice
*Night Spirit [HOST] | <--loves a Dom who protects his property or toys :)
Eldersign | Don't break your toys.
! PhantomKnight | and don;t let your toys break you....lol
*Night Spirit [HOST] | I wish to thank you all for making this a great CO,
*~tina~* | thanks NS....kisses
fit to be tied | thanks NS.. GrPa... and KJ
Erek & kisa | GrandPa, NS, Katie --- good CO, thank you all.
GrandPaDeSade[Host] | True PK. Also don't let your toys break themselves
| by going too far to please
GrandPaDeSade[Host] | you.
Lord Excalibur | Property that is well services and maintained will
| give you years of service
Lord Excalibur | <s>s
*Night Spirit [HOST] | esp. thanks as always to Miss MoL's Katie J who
| makes this all possible
MoL's Katie J | you who come make it what it is <s>
GrandPaDeSade[Host] | Night all And thanks to all.
MoL's Katie J | Good night <S>
Lord Excalibur | Thank you Katie NS and GPDS, sorry not much from me
| tonight
MoL's Katie J | hugggggs, Big Sis
*Night Spirit [HOST] | hugs little sis and hugs Lord E your presence
| always makes it special
Lord Excalibur | why thank you my dear friend
*Night Spirit [HOST] | GrandPa
*Night Spirit [HOST] | oh Gramps
Eldersign | You always do a good conference. :smile:
*Night Spirit [HOST] | <ggl> :)
MoL's Katie J | <grin>
GrandPaDeSade[Host] | Yes
*Night Spirit [HOST] | honey wanna race me to the toy room and try out
| some ideas <wg>
Erek & kisa | LOL
Lord Excalibur | <s>
Lord Excalibur | goodnight all, see you all next week God willing
MoL's Katie J | thanks for coming <s>
Erek & kisa | Time to go folks --- everyone, take care - please.
*Night Spirit [HOST] | Night Lord E and give our love to Lady A
GrandPaDeSade[Host] | Ok
! PhantomKnight | nit all
*Night Spirit [HOST] | Night Erek and hugs kisa
*~tina~* | <waves>
Lord Excalibur | I will my dear thank you
*Night Spirit [HOST] | Night PK
*Night Spirit [HOST] | ok Grandpa--on your mark...get set.......GO!
********** 6/7/98 6:16 PM End logging Sub Pub - D/s.