Dressing for BDSM
********** 11/29/98 5:03 PM Begin logging Silken Ties.
Ervin Trujillo | howdy people
GrandPaDeSade | Hi petal
*Night Spirit* | good evening all
MoL's Katie J | hello, Ervin
~petal~ | hello NS, hugs!
*Michael P.* | hi Ervin
MoL's Katie J | huggggs, big Sis
*Michael P.* | hugs NS
Ervin Trujillo | how are you guys tonite
*Night Spirit* | hugs little sis and hugs Michael hello Ervin
*Michael P.* | doiing just fine Ervin
Ervin Trujillo | my first time in here
*Michael P.* | welcome then
Ervin Trujillo | just checking it out
*Michael P.* | what's the conference topic NS?
MoL's Katie J | sorry, small child alert .. brb
*Night Spirit* | tonight's topic is dressing for bondage
~petal~ | k Katie!
*Michael P.* | lol, that's a no brainer...naked
GrandPaDeSade | Sounds good to me MP
Ervin Trujillo | is just a onlooker
*Night Spirit* | well now some folks are into fetish wear
*Michael P.* | me too GP, I'm up for naked
*Night Spirit* | allow me to tell you a story
*Michael P.* | well that may be so NS, but that's nothing a sharp
| knife won't correct (G)
GrandPaDeSade | NS is not permitted to dress here at home, unless
| it's very cold.
*Michael P.* | but I'll be good and not push that line of thinking
t¡ggê®éss | brrrrrrrr...<s
~petal~ | <listening to NS's story>
*Night Spirit* | I once spent a lovely evening with a very sweet Dom
| in San Francisco, I dressed
*Night Spirit* | up and he did
*Michael P.* | well she was wearing clothes when I was there
*Michael P.* | so what's the deal, shy?
*Michael P.* | lol
t¡ggê®éss | hiya petal....u the petal from new users?? <s
*Night Spirit* | I wore a nice dress and nylons, heels and did my
| hair
*Night Spirit* | he was in a suit, we had a lovely conversation then
| dinner.
GrandPaDeSade | We weren't sure about how comfortable all the
| company would be with us being
GrandPaDeSade | naked MP
Ervin Trujillo | you guys have fun
~petal~ | hello tiggeress, hugs.
Ervin Trujillo | bye
*Night Spirit* | he asked me the sit at his feet while he checked on
| line, someone asked him
*Night Spirit* | since he was very experienced what to wear during a
| scene
*Michael P.* | lol, I know
*Night Spirit* | they had bought about $1000 worth of clothing
t¡ggê®éss | hiya...im gayle <sss
*Michael P.* | hi gayle
~petal~ | nice to meet you, gayle!
*Michael P.* | hello Painter, Debra
t¡ggê®éss | hi michael..<sss
*Night Spirit* | he said well for the scene tonight I am wearing a
| suit, the lovely slave at my
*Night Spirit* | feet a dress, soon she will have nothing that is
| what you wear for a scene in
*Night Spirit* | his house
t¡ggê®éss | nice to meet ya too<S
~petal~ | hello Painter and Debra.
*Michael P.* | works for me NS
Debra | Hello Michael
GrandPaDeSade | To me the answer is that you wear whatever is
| comfortable and right for you.
*Painter* | Hello Michael P..
Debra | Hello petal
t¡ggê®éss | that sounds right grandpa..<s
GrandPaDeSade | And the submissive wears whatever the dom wants
| them to wear
t¡ggê®éss | oh...
*Night Spirit* | now to add to that I saw Mistress Midori in a very
| sexy latex mermaid outfit,
*Night Spirit* | slithering all over her sub she was tieing up using
| japanese rope bondage
*Michael P.* | and if he wants her to wear another sub? (G)
t¡ggê®éss | omg....<sss
~petal~ | <lovely visual, Michael>
*Night Spirit* | I thought the scene would not be as sexy---if she
| was naked
*Michael P.* | I thought so (S)
*Michael P.* | missed seeing MMidori in Denver last year
GrandPaDeSade | That's the dom's choice, (as long as it doesn't
| violate the submissives limits)
*Night Spirit* | but there are folks into leather, rubber, femme
| dress, butch, latex and costumes
*Michael P.* | haven't met too many that would freak at that too
| bad, but of course you're
*Michael P.* | right GP
GrandPaDeSade | We know one female dom who always dresses as a
| little girl.
*Michael P.* | going into listen mode while I eat my Udon
*Night Spirit* | now me I love lace and lingerie
*Night Spirit* | I love the feel of lingerie and of him taking it
| off of me
GrandPaDeSade | I won't ask what Udon is
*Night Spirit* | I assume others here have special clothing to wear
*Michael P.* | japanese noodles
GrandPaDeSade | Ok
Debra | <loves corsets
*Night Spirit* | what special scene clothing does anyone here own?
*Night Spirit* | do you own a corset Debra?
GrandPaDeSade | There is a new club is SF where you can't get in
| unless you wear leather
Debra | a friend does..
MoL's Katie J | yes, I love corsets too, Debra
Debra | i get to borrow.
MoL's Katie J | MoL likes leather harnesses.
Debra | I love the way they make me feel and look
*Night Spirit* | I own a corset also it is amazing how you feel in
| it---ok Doms do you like
*Night Spirit* | women in corsets?
MoL's Katie J | yes, I *feel* sexy wearing one ...
GrandPaDeSade | Do you get more out of it if the corset is tighter
| Debra?
Debra | TIGHTER <S>
*Michael P.* | I like the look
Debra | I like the feeling of it being tied tighter
*Michael P.* | the idea of the restraint is what I really like
*Michael P.* | that and the way the boobs look pushed tight
*Michael P.* | lol
GrandPaDeSade | Tight enough to be painful? Or just tight?
Doug | <strolling in> Hi everyone...just wanted to pop in
| to say...well...hi
Debra | very tight...just restraining..and yes
| Michael...breasts look beautiful pushed
Debra | up
*Night Spirit* | Katie why do you *feel* sexy wearing one?
MoL's Katie J | I like my breasts high ... and they surely help
| that ...
Debra | and pushed together.
GrandPaDeSade | How do people feel about the type of corset that
| stops just below the breasts?
MoL's Katie J | gravity has taken its toll on my perkiness.
*Michael P.* | There is also a vulnerable feminine quality that
| wearing them enhances
Debra | <loves those
*Night Spirit* | Katie hell I never had perky
MoL's Katie J | I want the support
*Night Spirit* | ok how about garters and nylons
GrandPaDeSade | There is something to be said for every type and
| style of breast, perky or not.
MoL's Katie J | I like how it holds them up for play
*Michael P.* | yes there is GP, normally the thing said is Yum
MoL's Katie J | yes, I love garters and nylons
MoL's Katie J | even more what it does to most men <loL>
MoL's Katie J | it facilitates play <<G>>
MoL's Katie J | is that why men like them?
*Night Spirit* | Michael at a play party do you find women in any
| type of fetish
*Night Spirit* | clothing---interesting?
*Michael P.* | normally they don't keep the clothes on, but I like
| the look of shiny leather
*Michael P.* | dresses, tight short ones
*Michael P.* | I like the chain bras and rigs
GrandPaDeSade | <--Loves chains
*Michael P.* | sometimes less is more
*Night Spirit* | ok just curious anyone like gloves?
GrandPaDeSade | Sometimes hiding just a little can be sexy
Debra | sometimes I'm in the fishnet mood
*Michael P.* | the most provocative thing I've seen was a sub
| collared with a heavy metal
*Michael P.* | collar with a light chain attached, to cuffs on her
| wrists and ankles. She
*Michael P.* | wasn't doing anything but sitting on the floor,
| legs curled to her side...I
*Michael P.* | wanted to jump her
GrandPaDeSade | What kind of gloves NS???
*Night Spirit* | latex, lace, leather long or short
*Night Spirit* | oh fishnets are nice
GrandPaDeSade | Well, that accounts for most of them
*Night Spirit* | personally I love opera length lace gloves
Debra | and balconies at operas <g>
GrandPaDeSade | I don't like fishnet as much. It can tear too
| easily. (Unless thats what you
GrandPaDeSade | want)
Debra | <that's what I want...the "tear" factor
*Michael P.* | I hate fishnet
*Michael P.* | in any form
GrandPaDeSade | NS loves to dress in old clothes and have me tear
| them off of her.
*Night Spirit* | why Michael?
*Michael P.* | I don't know NS, fishnet has never been something
| I've seen as erotic or even
*Michael P.* | attractive, I know I'm in the minority on that one
Debra | No you're not..some men find them "too slutty"
*Night Spirit* | no not really...
*Michael P.* | yeah it might be that Debra
GrandPaDeSade | I like slutty
*Michael P.* | they are sorta overkill
*Night Spirit* | sheesh then they should see my FUCK, BITCH and SLUT
| stockings
*Michael P.* | lol
GrandPaDeSade | True
MoL's Katie J | what are they, NS??
Debra | Depends on the rest of the outfit..
Debra | or where you are
Master of Leisure | you wear elf stockings...NS...<w>
*Night Spirit* | black stockings with those words written in white
| on them
MoL's Katie J | love it .. LOL
*Night Spirit* | hugs MOL next week ask me
Master of Leisure | hugggs.....NS......would love to see them
GrandPaDeSade | Debra, we go for walks in downtown San Francisco
| with her dressed in Juans and
GrandPaDeSade | teddy, hands bound, collared, on a leash held by
| me, flogger at my side.
*Night Spirit* | MOL come get a pair for Katie I have tons
MoL's Katie J | we're talking about dressing for Bondage, Master
*Michael P.* | shakes MoL, LTNS
Master of Leisure | shakes,,,Michael....GPDS
Debra | Now that would be fun.
Master of Leisure | been travellin a lot....Michael...
Debra | Or a porn theater
*Michael P.* | so I hear
GrandPaDeSade | Juans=jeans
*Night Spirit* | ok Michael do you have anything fetish in your
| wardrobe?
Master of Leisure | i got that......little one...<S>
Master of Leisure | hmmm.....i am planning on getting her some special
Master of Leisure | ones next weekend
*Michael P.* | well going to a porn theater requires a certain
| look (G)
*Michael P.* | and clothes with access
*Night Spirit* | how about you GrPa
Debra | Exactly, including fishnets
*Michael P.* | I have a silk komono I use from time to time, not
| strictly fetish, but it is a
*Michael P.* | tease thing
Debra | "the porn theater look"
GrandPaDeSade | I dress more or less as I would otherwise.
*Michael P.* | I normally use it when I want to pull myself out
| and then put myself back out
*Michael P.* | of sight
GrandPaDeSade | I do have some fetish stuff, but it's not necessary
| to use it
MoL's Katie J | but what do you like, Grandpa?
MoL's Katie J | I like the thought of that, Michael .. <G>
*Michael P.* | (s)
GrandPaDeSade | I tend to like nude for my submissives, or clothes
| with good access.
GrandPaDeSade | Or clothes that I can tear off of them'
Master of Leisure | I prefer clothes with nice access for my
Master of Leisure | submissives.....something very revealing, but
Master of Leisure | covering some area of the body
*Michael P.* | Once I wore a suit, was very busniness like, tied
| the sub up, no words and
*Michael P.* | proceeded to take the jacket off and roll up my
| sleeves while arranging the
*Michael P.* | toys...I heard later the suit made her feel the
| space, the feeling that she was
*Michael P.* | completely without control
*Michael P.* | so I figure now, that anything is or can be scene
| wear, not just fetishwear
Master of Leisure | nice power touch,,,Michael..
MoL's Katie J | yes, that's true, Michael ...
*Michael P.* | I was doing my "Is it safe" bit
*Michael P.* | from Marathon Man
GrandPaDeSade | NS likes it when I carry a breifcase and wear a
| tie, nothing else.
Master of Leisure | chuckling
MoL's Katie J | I find dressed sex very exciting.
*Michael P.* | letting her know that I was going to do exactly
| what I wanted no matter how she
*Michael P.* | responded
GrandPaDeSade | She also likes it when I wear a suit
*Michael P.* | of course it was consensual
*Night Spirit* | oh yes baby love it
*Michael P.* | the suit was a prop,
GrandPaDeSade | Many things can be props
GrandPaDeSade | Including dress.
*Michael P.* | yep
Master of Leisure | i like to have loose clothes on.....very relaxing
| and yet
Master of Leisure | sexy and powerful.......
MoL's Katie J | being naked while the other is clothed is a real
| turn on.
*Night Spirit* | ok who likes naked
*Michael P.* | me too MoL, I get worked up and I need room to
| expand sometimes without having
*Michael P.* | to adjust myself (G)
*Michael P.* | I love naked, but there must be a collar on or it
| just looks incomplete
GrandPaDeSade | When I demand my submissives be nude, I am taking
| all control away from them. I
GrandPaDeSade | now control them even being allowed to have
| clothes. Tends to put them in the
GrandPaDeSade | right mood for anything I have planned.
Jeremy | hello
Master of Leisure | i like a loose robe..nothing on underneath.....can
| be
Master of Leisure | very sensual to a sub......lets them slide gently
| into
Master of Leisure | that deep space
*Michael P.* | thats it GP
*Michael P.* | now I see why Katie liked the kimono idea (G)
Master of Leisure | grinnin
*Night Spirit* | kimonos are nice
GrandPaDeSade | Whatever I do, the first thing I must do is
| establish control. Dress (or
GrandPaDeSade | undress) can be one way of doing that.
MoL's Katie J | <teehee>
*Michael P.* | indeed, and even before a scene
*Michael P.* | taking out clothes and laying them out
GrandPaDeSade | Right.
*Michael P.* | very controlling
Master of Leisure | I prefer to take control dressed....first.....and
Master of Leisure | slowly..sensually make sure that that the sub
Master of Leisure | understands each phase as i control the scene
Master of Leisure | that is the submissives task..Michael...<g>
*Michael P.* | and once on, if they are older or special, ripping
| them a bit to expose is
*Michael P.* | really hot while the sub stands there patiently
*Michael P.* | jeeze, I'm getting excited here
Master of Leisure | and i always have the submissive undress
| first...then
Master of Leisure | ,,,,undress me...to a certain point
GrandPaDeSade | Oh, you take control dressed, at the start of the
| scene. Not allowing them to
GrandPaDeSade | keep their clothes just pushes them further into
| that controlled space they
GrandPaDeSade | love.
Master of Leisure | the submissive always sets up the bath scene for
Master of Leisure | me too
MoL's Katie J | <smiling>
*Michael P.* | I enjoy having the submissive watch me undress,
| slow, sometimes incredibly
*Michael P.* | slow, while I "tell" her how obviously lusting she
| is, looks.
*Michael P.* | often not trying to actually make an issue of
| undressing, but doing so as I
*Michael P.* | walk around, or watch her wait
*Michael P.* | oh boy
*Night Spirit* | I like wearing something sexy---and forced to
| remove it or have him remove them
GrandPaDeSade | I have her undress first. Then I may undress
| myself, or heve her do it. It
GrandPaDeSade | depends on a lot of things.
Master of Leisure | katie has instructions what to wear ..and it must be
Master of Leisure | sexy......I only remove it when she knows that I
| want
Master of Leisure | to......
GrandPaDeSade | Sometimes I undress he nicely, sometimes forceably,
| sometimes I have her do it
*Michael P.* | well no matter what the clothing, in a group venue,
| saying "strip" as casually
*Michael P.* | as saying hello and having the sub remove her
| clothes, especially if I'm
*Michael P.* | looking the other way is hot
Master of Leisure | just depends on the scene and the feelings at that
Master of Leisure | time......GPDS
GrandPaDeSade | he=her
Master of Leisure | sure is...Michael
GrandPaDeSade | Correct MOL
*Night Spirit* | am I the only lover of lingerie?
*Michael P.* | sometimes a little interrogation is in order first
Debra | No...but must be silk
GrandPaDeSade | No, NS, you know better
Master of Leisure | i love to watch my submissive undress for
Master of Leisure | me.....sexually and sensually.....and
| slowly...never too
Master of Leisure | fast
*Michael P.* | love silk
Herschell W Davis | how about see through
Debra | I lovvvvvvvvvvvve silk
Master of Leisure | nope...NS.....i love lingerie on katie
Debra | no silk sees what you need to see
Debra | so thin..against your skin
Master of Leisure | chuckling..interrogation can be fun.....<eg.
*Night Spirit* | ok what is the strangest thing anyone has seen on
| someone doing a scene?
GrandPaDeSade | NS likes humiliation
*Michael P.* | lol, I said strip to marie one night at the APEX
| dungeon in Phoenix while I was
*Michael P.* | talking to a domme and turned around no more than
| six seconds later and she was
*Michael P.* | standing there naked and grinning from ear to ear,
| so much for slow
Master of Leisure | silk is nice,,,,,,leather is great
*Night Spirit* | lol Micheal
*Michael P.* | anyone ever used a hospital gown? Saw that once,
| it was different
Master of Leisure | laffffin...and a lot for obedient....knew I liked
| marie...
GrandPaDeSade | Today NS had me underss her, wash her all over
| while insulting her and telling
GrandPaDeSade | her how dirty she was. Then take her.
*Michael P.* | Hugs marie dear
Master of Leisure | sure have..Michael.....shows their ass very
| well......
*Michael P.* | was just talking about how shy and slow you were
| at APEX when I said strip
Master of Leisure | great for a dresser scene......and a nice flogging
marieM | hugs Back.. i don't want to interupt..
Herschell W Davis | what about the little bit of fur god gave each of us
*Night Spirit* | marie we are discussing bondage wear---
*Night Spirit* | <--loves a VERY hairy man
Master of Leisure | hugggs..marie...sorry I missed you in Longmont.....I
Master of Leisure | called you around 9 times....but your cell phone was
Master of Leisure | not on
marieM | well i love clothes.. <S>
Debra | Same here NS...
*Night Spirit* | marie what type?
marieM | mmmmmm that's odd.. i am sorry i missed you
| then..since they changed the area
marieM | code thing it's been wierd..
marieM | you don't have to dial 1.. oryou do
GrandPaDeSade | Interesting. I sometimes feel self conscious
| because the media image seems to
GrandPaDeSade | be of hairless men. And I'm not hairless by a long
| way
Master of Leisure | i tried dialing 1..and not dialing 1....all I got
| was your
Master of Leisure | phone was not on
Debra | No to hairless...likes the feel of his chest hair
| on the palm of my hand
marieM | well i like all types.. fetish wear.. i have some
| off.
marieM | leather, chains, see through..
Master of Leisure | the media image doesnt have a clue......hairy is in
| as
Master of Leisure | far as i am concerned
GrandPaDeSade | MOL, her cell phone could be in either the old
| area, or the new. You never know
GrandPaDeSade | which they will do.
*Night Spirit* | I love in the shower his chest all soapy and I rub
| my breasts on it <yum>
ikke | hi room
MoL's Katie J | it's not the hair, it's the man underneath <s>
Conner | trade pics?
420 | hello
*Night Spirit* | marie what is your favorite outfit?
Master of Leisure | well,,,anyway,,marie.....you missed a nice
| dinner.....
*Michael P.* | they all look nice marie, but how long do I
| normally let you stay in them?
420 | age/sex check
Master of Leisure | next time we will get together
Conner | 20 m
marieM | sounds good.. andi am going to check that phone
| again
GrandPaDeSade | Katie, yes, but it's part of the image that makes
| one attractive or not to many
GrandPaDeSade | women
*Michael P.* | we're having a converence Conner/420 not a singles
| swing party
marieM | favorite.. i would say it really changes depending
| on the scne or the mood..
marieM | actually a combination of leather.. and chains..
marieM | for fetish..
marieM | i mean i have worn all sorts of combination of
| thigns..
marieM | things..
420 | g strings
marieM | as far as being shy.. the more we play in public
| the less shy i feel.. although
marieM | in all honesty
*Michael P.* | tight clinging body suits work well on you dear
marieM | i have always felt pretty comfortable..
marieM | <S> thank you.. Master
*Night Spirit* | anyone like costumes--like maid outfits, little
| girl, genie?
marieM | in the begining i worried more about the pain level
| I could take
420 | doing what
Master of Leisure | little girl...PERK
Debra | School girl is nice...pleated skirt, white cotton
| blouse
*Michael P.* | I like basic slut wear, but not the fishnets
*Michael P.* | never done the school girl thing
*Michael P.* | but I could get some candy and give it a shot
Master of Leisure | i am not big into fishnets....i do like the little
| girl
Master of Leisure | scene
Debra | kind neighbour turned nasty is more fun
marieM | no but i like boots <S>
*Michael P.* | lol, I like that one Debra
Debra | <loves that one
GrandPaDeSade | We know a domme who like to dress as a little girl
| to dom men
*Night Spirit* | we have mentioned slut wear--ok what is slut wear?
marieM | Nightspirit Michael asked about shyness.. do
| youthink a dom can make a sub
marieM | overcome her feeling shy about herself?
marieM | or does that come from within..
*Michael P.* | in that scene the little girl persona likely is a
| bit humiliating and ups the
*Michael P.* | power rush
~BelGandalf~ | <walking in with Belj at my side>..howdy neighbours
~BelGandalf~ | what's the topic?
MoL's Katie J | Welcome to the Silken Ties D/s conference .. we're
| talking about fetish
MoL's Katie J | clothing.
*Michael P.* | shakes Gandalf, jinga
GrandPaDeSade | Bondage dress
~BelGandalf~ | OOoo..cool
MoL's Katie J | <just happen to have a macro handy
Beljinga | evening all <S>
Lori -busy | <Good afternoon everyone ..sorry I am late and I
| know you see me so I do not
Lori -busy | expect you to stop your conversation..<s>....I will
| just sit and listen> ~~~
Lori -busy | Waiving to all
marieM | slut wear to me is things that are more sexy even
| sensual provactive.. to the
marieM | wearer..
Master of Leisure | I think it takes time for that..marie..
! PhantomKnight | <waves from the background>
Debra | Slut wear....those damn fishnets of course NS <S>
marieM | and in my case more to Michael than to myself..
*Michael P.* | (s)
*Night Spirit* | oh yes marie first playparty I went to with GrPa he
| made me strip I thought for
*Night Spirit* | sure it would be pur hell, I felt comfortable
| because although naked with a
*Night Spirit* | bunch of women no one was kate moss, every size
| shape and all being loved
*Michael P.* | that's it NS
marieM | MoL time together alone? or time at play parties or
| clubs?
marieM | actually heels and great underwear can make me feel
| slutty no matter what i am
marieM | wearing.. on the outside
MoL's Katie J | I can't imagine ever being that comfortable at a
| play party.
*Night Spirit* | alone or a couple of folks stripping is no
| biggie---some play parties no biggie
*Night Spirit* | but others---it depends on the mood of folks I
| guess and the weather
*Michael P.* | but marie, you can't wear panties so that cuts down
| on your underwear choices
*Michael P.* | (G)
Master of Leisure | time together alone...first...marie......it takes a
| while to
Master of Leisure | know your sub and how shy or not shy she
Master of Leisure | is...then,,,,,advancing to play parties and
| eventually
Master of Leisure | clubs until she is comfortable with stripping and
Master of Leisure | being naked in front of others
marieM | actually i think in a very intimate play party you
| might be Katie?
MoL's Katie J | nope.
Master of Leisure | each sub is different.....some lack shyness while
Master of Leisure | others are very shy
Beljinga | I'm with Katie on this one I'm afraid
~BelGandalf~ | I am sure we could sit here all night and talk
| about a subbie's outfit...but
~BelGandalf~ | what do Dom's wear?
*Michael P.* | then it becomes edge play
marieM | good question BelGandalf..
*Night Spirit* | Katie I never did it in public with alot of
| folks---before that time, but it
*Night Spirit* | was odd there were women in their 30-70, some
| bigger then me, some smaller, all
*Night Spirit* | scars hanging out--and all being loved---it was
| amazing
*Michael P.* | I wear basic black
*Michael P.* | standard Dom issue
MoL's Katie J | good for them <s>
*Night Spirit* | Allyn wears basic skin
marieM | jeans, and boots.. leather jacket
*Michael P.* | I don't always keep it on though
marieM | you keep most of it on Michael as do the other
| Dom's.
Lori -busy | <listens to that question BG asked>
*Michael P.* | in public
Master of Leisure | I wear black leather..Belj....i love the feel and
| the
Master of Leisure | smell of leather on me and on my sub
~BelGandalf~ | there are all kinds of fetish bars, around here,
| but I don't go, because they
~BelGandalf~ | won't allow.."street" clothes
Beljinga | sounds familiar eh Master?
*Michael P.* | not alone, although I have stripped, then got
| dressed, then stripped again
GrandPaDeSade | Depends NS, sometimes street cloths
~BelGandalf~ | oh christ..leather..<homer simpson groan...drool>
420 | whats upper yo
*Michael P.* | got that boot handy GP?
Lori -busy | lol
420 | age/sex check
*Night Spirit* | Bel I know fetish clubs remind me of show off the
| gown and tux clubs---too
*Night Spirit* | expensive for my taste
! PhantomKnight | <shakes head>
*Michael P.* | shakes PK
! PhantomKnight | shakes MP
Master of Leisure | Hey,,,PK.....shakes....
! PhantomKnight | Hey Mol....ltns
marieM | Bel there are some people here in the scene.. both
| gothic and fetishwear.. that
marieM | are JUST into it for the clothes..
~BelGandalf~ | although, the first one I went to...I wore..nylons
marieM | and say so..
Beljinga | oh boy..never heard THAT story <ggl>
marieM | i think you can do festish wear cheaply if shop
| around.. i know i do
*Night Spirit* | oh marie I totally agree some just are in it to
| show off the clothes
Master of Leisure | a sub or a Dom can be sexy in many types of
Master of Leisure | clothes...i like to wear jeans and sports shirts at
Master of Leisure | times.....
marieM | Beljinga.. i mean at the clubs
*Michael P.* | show off the clothes and the flesh
*Michael P.* | works for me, I like looking
*Night Spirit* | why I perfer play parties to fetish clubs
Master of Leisure | grinnin.....i love to watch...Michael
MoL's Katie J | MoL is sexy to me no matter what he's wearing or
| not wearing.
~BelGandalf~ | I can honestly say I have no Dom "gear", except
| perhaps a normal belt with toys
~BelGandalf~ | hanging of of it
*Michael P.* | Voyeur ^5s MoL
Lori -busy | <--thinks all Doms like to watch and giggles
Master of Leisure | I like play parties....NS......much better than
| fetish
Master of Leisure | clubs.....i prefer to be with people I know and
| trust
! PhantomKnight | lol BelG.......<taking notes on Dom wear....for I
| may need it soon for a party>
Master of Leisure | ^5...Michael....and we love it
*Michael P.* | the average dom wear I've seen is a tshirt and
| comfortable slacks, boots and
*Michael P.* | one hell of an attitude
*Night Spirit* | we belong to a group called Gemini all Male
| Dom/female sub couples---we get
*Night Spirit* | together once a month at someone's house it's nice
| seeing the same faces
~BelGandalf~ | never been to one, but I think I would rather go to
| a play party, where you
~BelGandalf~ | know the people rather than just a kinky bar
Beljinga | LOL MIchael
Master of Leisure | sounds like the 60s......Michael
*Michael P.* | play parties beat clubs anyday
GrandPaDeSade | Agree Bel
GrandPaDeSade | BG that is
marieM | BelGandalf.... i agree it's the one reason Michael
| and I try to make San Fran
marieM | every year..just for that reason
*Michael P.* | maybe so MoL, but it's the way it is
Master of Leisure | yep....i know what you mean...Michael
*Michael P.* | that was standard dom wear at the folsom party
Lori -busy | (thinking of openning a shop named * Attitude* and
| having Flesh displayed )
Lori -busy | hehehe
*Michael P.* | you'll get rich Lori
Lori -busy | <s>
~BelGandalf~ | Flesh?
Lori -busy | Flash?
Master of Leisure | lol
Lori -busy | lol
*Michael P.* | flash flesh
Master of Leisure | sounds good to me
Lori -busy | you know what I meant !<p> ( sitting quietly again)
*Night Spirit* | before we end I have a few things to say
~BelGandalf~ | "flesh for fantasy"
marieM | I wish there were more.. Bed and Breakfasts.. like
| HOD around the country.. at
marieM | one time Elizabeth had a store in her B&B
Beljinga | I'd shop there Lori...or I could design somethings
| <wink>... I still have major
Beljinga | philly "attitude"
~BelGandalf~ | hey, that's a good name for that store..<S>
Trent | Hi 5 and Hi's to A/all
*Michael P.* | hi Trent
*Michael P.* | br b
MoL's Katie J | hiya Trent
*Night Spirit* | Our site HouseOfDeSade.com is growing it has a BBS,
| mail list and it's own chat
*Night Spirit* | room
marieM | evening all
Debra | Hello Trent
Master of Leisure | heyyas...trent
*Night Spirit* | also MichaelP has added a new section
Lori -busy | ^5Beljinga I will give you a discount <s>
~BelGandalf~ | <writing down that site>
*Night Spirit* | the chat room, BBS and mail list are all free and
| for your use if you wish it
*Night Spirit* | well free until CDA2 takes affect
Lori -busy | Own chat room NS? Is the access required? ALso..I
| have visited your site
Lori -busy | and.........
Trent | There is a store in town called Noir Leather ......
| Gotta go there with
Trent | digital camera and report back
Lori -busy | I could not see all the areas....some required
| the access and...
*Night Spirit* | the chat room can be reached thru the java program
| from our site or from IRC
Lori -busy | I could not obtain it and I swear I am older the 18
! PhantomKnight | what is the name of the Chat room in irc?
~BelGandalf~ | I must say though..I LOVE those kinky leather
| stores...just walking into one,
~BelGandalf~ | and that leather smell hitting you like a sledge
| hammer
GrandPaDeSade | Even free then , but you'll need to show a credit
| card to prove youre an adult
GrandPaDeSade | it CDA ever takes effect. Thanks to congress.
~BelGandalf~ | not to mention all the "gear", driving you crazy
Master of Leisure | our Govt in action...
*Night Spirit* | for now the jump page to the entire site is
*Night Spirit* | http://www.houseofdesade.com/adultentry.htm
Lori -busy | Thanks to Congress then I had some problems
Trent | MoL they are only Trying to help<S>
Lady cdm | hugggggggggggggggggs debra<S>
Lori -busy | ((Lady )))
MoL's Katie J | I'm 42 and still don't have a credit card .. does
| that mean I'm not an adult?
Master of Leisure | if I need help...trent...i usually ask for it
GrandPaDeSade | Our government protecting us little kids from
| ourselves
*Michael P.* | it hasn't taken effect has it?
*Michael P.* | I thought it was held up in court again
Lady cdm | huggggggggggggggggggs lori u busy lol<S>
Master of Leisure | nope...sweetie.means you are my little girl...<eg.
Lori -busy | lol Katie
marieM | nope.. not yet.. as far as i know
Beljinga | Nope...means your smart I belive Katie...who needs
| the debt?
MoL's Katie J | yes, and I love being your little girl, Master
GrandPaDeSade | Use the address she gave you above to bypass the
| check
Lady cdm | <~~~~waving hello to rest of the roomies<S>
Lori -busy | lol Lady..glad to see you
MoL's Katie J | hello, Lady cdm
Lady cdm | u 2 lori why u busy lol
Lady cdm | hiya katie<S>
Master of Leisure | hello..Lady
*Night Spirit* | the name of the room is houseofdesade to find it go
| to this page
*Night Spirit* | http://www.houseofdesade.com/service.htm
Lady cdm | master hi ya
*Night Spirit* | now any last words about the wild fashions of BDSM?
Master of Leisure | call me MoL...Lady....everyone else does
Lori -busy | so that noone pages me while I am *busy*
| Lady.....isn't that obvious?
MoL's Katie J | if it feels good, wear it?
GrandPaDeSade | CDA has a hearing on Dec 8
~Beljinga~ | LOL Katie...^5
Lady cdm | spilled beer on the keyboard again lol
Master of Leisure | the sexier the better...NS.....and a white, see thru
Master of Leisure | dress is very nice
*Michael P.* | amen Katie
Master of Leisure | and it does feel good when she wears it...<eg>
Lady cdm | arghhhhhhh me thinks im gonna have to dissect again
~BelGandalf~ | saw a guy wearing a condom on his head..probably
| felt good
Lady cdm | oh my
Master of Leisure | he was protected...BelG...chucklin
*Night Spirit* | next week GrPa is Santa soooooooooo we won't be
| here so think of it as a
*Night Spirit* | vacation
MoL's Katie J | talk about getting your head together .. sheeeeesh
~Beljinga~ | he was going for the "eraser" head look probably
Trent | BG a dick head ?
*Night Spirit* | lol trent
*Michael P.* | lol
~BelGandalf~ | oh, and get this..he takes it offa his head...then
| sucks it up his nose, and
~BelGandalf~ | pulls it out his mouth
Lady cdm | oh my
MoL's Katie J | ok, NS, I won't be here either .. will be with MoL
| so will be tied up, so to
MoL's Katie J | speak.
Master of Leisure | now ..that ais talent...BelG...
~Beljinga~ | kind of talent that makes people say..."hmmm...too
| much time on your hands?"
Master of Leisure | her ass will be quite red alse...<weg>
! PhantomKnight | is there a topic for the next conference?
*Night Spirit* | we shall be back in 2 weeks between the SM exchange
| and the Fandango party
~BelGandalf~ | yeah I thought so, i was having too much trouble at
| the time coughing up my
~BelGandalf~ | beer though
Lori -busy | lolBG
~Beljinga~ | LOL
Master of Leisure | lafffin
*Night Spirit* | 12/13 Major toys x-frames, stocks, spanking
| benches, gurneys, torture
*Night Spirit* | chairs, st. katherine wheels--etc.
*Night Spirit* | 12/20 Favorite bondage movie or book (minor and
| mainstream)
*Night Spirit* | 12/27 Truth or Dare Game
MoL's Katie J | PK< it will be posted on the board here.
! PhantomKnight | thanks Katie
Master of Leisure | gurneys....PERK....
Debra | gurneys <yikes>
~Beljinga~ | <ggl>
Lori -busy | torture chairs?? <perk>
*Night Spirit* | MoL we have a gurney, 2 frames, a torture table,
| spanking horse and a few other
*Night Spirit* | things
Lady cdm | whips and chains?
Lady cdm | handcuffs
GrandPaDeSade | We have a gurney in our dungeon here.
~BelGandalf~ | gurneys..what is that?..<it's on the tip on my
| brain, just can't think of it>
Lady cdm | <SSSSSSS>
! PhantomKnight | <thinks NS and GrandPa have Everything> <EG>
Master of Leisure | <~~worked in a hospital for years...loved
| gurneys....
GrandPaDeSade | 32 floggers
~Beljinga~ | OMG
GrandPaDeSade | Lots of whips and chains
! PhantomKnight | daaaammmmmmmnnnnnnnnn
Master of Leisure | only 32
! PhantomKnight | lol MoL
*Night Spirit* | no hon 33 we bought the rubber one at Kinky Karnival
GrandPaDeSade | Actually, I think it is 34 now
Master of Leisure | laffffin.....somehow i knew NS would set it
| straight...
GrandPaDeSade | We just made a bunch of plastic canes last night.
*Night Spirit* | <--wants a violet wand flogger made on tinsel like
| mylar
MoL's Katie J | somehow, I think she'll pay for that.
GrandPaDeSade | She will
~BelGandalf~ | well, I made a few spreader bars last week
Master of Leisure | grinnin
~BelGandalf~ | nice red mohogany stain on them too..<S>
GrandPaDeSade | We've made those too.
~BelGandalf~ | blends soooOOoo nicely with the furniture
GrandPaDeSade | Didn't stain them though
*Night Spirit* | we need another budget toy conferance
~Beljinga~ | yes..I read the last one you had..in ichat..very
| interesting stuff <S>
GrandPaDeSade | Add it for the first weekend in Jan NS
*Night Spirit* | GrPa we have CO plan thru Feb 14th already
GrandPaDeSade | Then add it after that
Lori -busy | Is it posted on your Website already NS?
GrandPaDeSade | Which one Lori, the toy one?
Trent | NS was there a CO on Violet Wands already?
Lori -busy | lol...no the list of all CO through Feb?
GrandPaDeSade | I don't know, NS?
*Night Spirit* | no Trent GrandPa is writing a story on electrical
| toys which I plan to post here
Trent | ok
Lori -busy | <Thanks
GrandPaDeSade | One on eletrical toys in general would be good.
*Night Spirit* | no Lori give me a few minutes will be
Lori -busy | <perk> electricity? toy?
Lori -busy | thank you NS <s>
~BelGandalf~ | <mind racing, thinking of those kinds of
| toys>...<biting my tongue>
~Beljinga~ | <nervous laugh>
~BelGandalf~ | as long as i get to hold the remote..<shrug>
Trent | I saw plans somewhere on how to make a Tesla coil
| that is 3 feet high out of a
Trent | wrapping paper tube.
GrandPaDeSade | I even have a remote controlled vibrator NS wears.
GrandPaDeSade | Wireless
Lori -busy | remote?
~Beljinga~ | oh man <shaking my head>
Trent | mmmmmmm
GrandPaDeSade | Yes, remote
Lori -busy | wow
~BelGandalf~ | MMmm..nice for going out to dinner eh?
Debra | good for subways too
Trent | how about a pager so you can call her ?
! PhantomKnight | wonder if you can get a Long distance remote toy?
GrandPaDeSade | Interesting reaction when sitting in a restrurant
| trying to eat and I turn it
GrandPaDeSade | on.
~Beljinga~ | LOL
Lori -busy | What is the frequency ?? <chuckles>
Wild Thing | Hi there :)
Lori -busy | lol PK
Trent | GMTA PK
Wild Thing | What kind of toy??
GrandPaDeSade | No, Only good for ten feet or so.
~BelGandalf~ | hey..there's an idea...practical here...a vibrating
| butt plug, with a remote
~BelGandalf~ | control activated by phone
Lori -busy | lol GpaDS
! PhantomKnight | Vibrate-911
GrandPaDeSade | Further would require a federal liscense
~Beljinga~ | LOL
Wild Thing | this could be interesting !!!
! PhantomKnight | <thinking of starting a new wireless service>
GrandPaDeSade | Bel, I even know people who could design it.
Wild Thing | Good idea
~BelGandalf~ | hey, send em my way..<laughing..trying not to get
| excited>
! PhantomKnight | might put AT&T outta business.....lol
~BelGandalf~ | I think that would help out with these LDR's
Lori -busy | <getting so many Business Ideas from this CO>
Baby~Wings~ | good evening <s>
Trent | Reach out and touch someone
~Beljinga~ | yeah..no kidding Lori
Lori -busy | Hi Wings
GrandPaDeSade | AT&T would love it. More phone use. Maybe even long
| distance
Trent | HI Wings
! PhantomKnight | Sub's Across America
Lori -busy | lol
~Beljinga~ | reach out and buzz someone
*Night Spirit* | ok the CO calender on the site is up to date
Baby~Wings~ | hi Lori and Trent <s>
Lori -busy | <remembers to patent the idea>
sweetnips | hello
GrandPaDeSade | I want to see the face of the clerk in the patent
| office when you submit it Lori
~BelGandalf~ | well, I think it would be a great way to put one's
| sub in there place..at any
~BelGandalf~ | given time
Lori -busy | LOLOL
*Michael P.* | where is Nature of the Beast 2 NS?
Lori -busy | ^5 GpaDS
Trent | Pagers as ben wa balls hmmmmmm
*Night Spirit* | hold on Micahel give you the exact URL
Lori -busy | I think they woud envy me !!
GrandPaDeSade | My fault MP, I forgot to tell her to seperate them
GrandPaDeSade | ^5 Lori
Lori -busy | Is that a new story you wrote Michael?
Trent | pagers as clit jewelry damnnnnn
*Michael P.* | they aren't joined GP, at least I couldn't find it
GrandPaDeSade | At least I think I forgot.
Lori -busy | <s> @ GpDS.......I have more patent ideas <s>
GrandPaDeSade | oK, THEN SHE HAS MOVED OR IS MOVING IT.
GrandPaDeSade | Whoops
*Michael P.* | lol
*Michael P.* | oh my
! PhantomKnight | yikes
Lori -busy | lol
*Night Spirit* | http://www.houseofdesade.com/michaelp/nature2.htm
*Michael P.* | calm down GP (S)
*Michael P.* | thanks NS
~BelGandalf~ | well, you know they have, vibrating pagers..it's
| gotta be easy to adapt it to a
~BelGandalf~ | sexual device
Lori -busy | Michael.....is that a new story? ( asking twice)
~Beljinga~ | <writing that down>
GrandPaDeSade | Darn, and here I was getting ready to punish her
| again.
Lori -busy | lol
*Michael P.* | no Lori, its the post about poly play made into an
| essay
Lori -busy | OK Thank you Michael
*Michael P.* | go for it GP (G)
Lori -busy | now she will never move it just to be punished<s>
*Michael P.* | lol naaa, she'll move it
GrandPaDeSade | No, If she does too many things wrong, the
| punishments stop
Lori -busy | laffin..yeah but I bet she will be really slow
GrandPaDeSade | That's the worst thing I can do to her
*Night Spirit* | :(
! PhantomKnight | NOT giving a sub her spankings is worse
*Michael P.* | I'm sure GP can hurry her up when she does things
| slowly
Lori -busy | hugs NS......I hope you haven't done to many thigs
| wrong?
Lori -busy | lol
~BelGandalf~ | well, i would tend to think, changing tactics is
| worse..changing the punishment
*Night Spirit* | lol Lori
Lori -busy | Now beleives in that De Sade part of Gpa's name <gg>
Lori -busy | <s> @ NS
GrandPaDeSade | She likes paddles, not bARe handed spankings. So
| when I'm mad, it's bare handed.
Lori -busy | yick
*Night Spirit* | GrPa is evil
airwolf | hi lori busy
! PhantomKnight | LOL
~Beljinga~ | Master...you mentioned earlier...wearing "nylons"
| out..and I haven't been able
~Beljinga~ | to get it out of my mind...may I ask why you wore
| them?
airwolf | how are you tonight?
*Michael P.* | I can't do bare handed too often, my hands tend to
| explore rather than spank
~BelGandalf~ | I just change tactics all together and do something
| else
! PhantomKnight | <needs to try using a paddle>
~Beljinga~ | barehanded? yikes
~BelGandalf~ | <laughing>..well...
GrandPaDeSade | I explore between swats
Lori -busy | lol Michael....that is a punishment??
Lori -busy | you too huh Gpa?
GrandPaDeSade | And sometimes swat the pussey too
*Michael P.* | no its not, so that's why I don't do them much,
| actually, I haven't punished a
*Michael P.* | sub in years
! PhantomKnight | wide leather belts work nicely
airwolf | well bye for now
Lori -busy | <s>
~BelGandalf~ | I wore them, because i didn't really have anything
| else to wear, and you had to
~BelGandalf~ | dress.."kinky"...although, I was going to wrap my
| legs in saran wrap, but opted
~BelGandalf~ | for the nylons
Lori -busy | <--thinks marie is very good girl then <s>
*Michael P.* | lol
*Michael P.* | she is Lori
~BelGandalf~ | only "sometimes" swat the pussy..<WEG>
Lori -busy | <s>
GrandPaDeSade | NS has a problem with belts due to abuse as a
| child, so i don't do that.
! PhantomKnight | I know a certain sub that gets spanking cause she
| is Good....not because she is
! PhantomKnight | bad.....
~Beljinga~ | LOL...oh okay..I see Master..thank you <laughing>
*Night Spirit* | <--hates certain swats he does
Lori -busy | eh PK
! PhantomKnight | eh what Lori?
Lori -busy | <s>
*Michael P.* | gotta take care of some chores all
*Michael P.* | take care
~BelGandalf~ | then again...I can't see swatting the pussy as
| being a punishment in any way
Lori -busy | Bye Michael
! PhantomKnight | nit MP
~Beljinga~ | NIght MIchael
~BelGandalf~ | bye MP
marieM | night all thanks for the CO
~BelGandalf~ | night marie
GrandPaDeSade | OK, night all.
Lori -busy | nite marie<s>
*Night Spirit* | Night all and hugs
********** 11/29/98 6:31 PM End logging Silken Ties.