Major Toys
********** 12/13/98 4:59 PM Begin logging Silken Ties.
ArtistEyez | hello
ArtistEyez | night spirit .. what name is this?
*Night Spirit* | it is my name
GrandPaDeSade | Sorry, my computer wasn't co-operating.
ArtistEyez | yeah .. I figured this much ..
ArtistEyez | ,hello grand
*Night Spirit* | hello hubby
GrandPaDeSade | Hello AE
*Night Spirit* | GrPa where is the review for the site of the day
| award?
GrandPaDeSade | Huggs and kisses all over NS
ArtistEyez | hello Grand.. s
Dodgy | ok, guys...we are talking jokes here
Dodgy | tell me some
*Night Spirit* | no Dodgy we are not
ArtistEyez | were not talking anything Dodgy
ArtistEyez | they seem to say hello .. but thats about as far as
| it goes ..
Dodgy | oh, wow, a hostile reception
ArtistEyez | guess we just need someone in the reoom willing to
| talk ..
Dodgy | i'm willing, pick a subject
ArtistEyez | ?
ArtistEyez | i dont know ..
ArtistEyez | didn't have an agenda when I came in..
*Night Spirit* | well actually this room is reserved at 8pm est for
| a conferance concerning BDSM
Dodgy | see, the art of conversation dicates that it is a
| two-way
Dodgy | thing...
JOY | evening
*Night Spirit* | today's topic is Major toys
*Michael P.* | hugs Joy, NS, shakes Gents
ArtistEyez | hello Joy
ArtistEyez | didnt see a sign on the door Night .. sorry .
JOY | <<Michael, NS>>>>
Dodgy | Can't we talk religion?
JOY | hi Artisteyes
ArtistEyez | :o) hey how are you Joy?
*Night Spirit* | no Dodgy
*Michael P.* | well I played with a Captain in the Air Force, she
| sorta liked being an object,
*Michael P.* | but no Majors
JOY | great <S>
tina<busy> | hiya strangers....
ArtistEyez | good to hear it ..
*Night Spirit* | hugs tina LTNS
ArtistEyez | so i am in a room that is reserved?
tina<busy> | huggsss back!
JOY | whats the difference between a major toy and a
| minor toy?
JOY | <,tina>>
*Michael P.* | hugs tina
tina<busy> | <s> Joy
*Michael P.* | a minor toy can get you arrested?
*Night Spirit* | Joy now that is a good question--Major toy is
| furniture
JOY | lol Michael
tina<busy> | huggssMichael.....did you just get stars...or have
| I not been paying attention??
ArtistEyez | oh feeling PRETTY LOST here ..
JOY | like the bondage table my hubby built :)
*Night Spirit* | I am talking about St. Katherine wheel, gurneys,
| alters, x-frames
*Michael P.* | you haven't been paying attention, I'll suggest
| Chuck swat you later for that
*Night Spirit* | yes Joy like that
Dodgy | seems like you are all full of shit anyway, nothing
Dodgy | constructive to say except filling your sad empty
| lives
Dodgy | talking bollocks to each other!!!
tina<busy> | <giggle>..well you just loook different tonigth
| then....sorry <g>...
*Michael P.* | can we reach out and squelch someone?
tina<busy> | St.K wheel...ohmy.....<perk>
tina<busy> | whats the topic/?
JOY | Dodgy I like your brit accent
*Night Spirit* | tonight's topic is about Major toys
Dodgy | Bollocks, apparently!!
tina<busy> | okeee
*Night Spirit* | do we like them, how can we use them---can you
| build your own
*Night Spirit* | where to find them
ArtistEyez | well you all have a good time.. I am out of here
| ..dont you all get to upset ..
JOY | you can build your own
ArtistEyez | lol
ArtistEyez | bye
JOY | just some stuff from home depot
tina<busy> | love home depot...lol
JOY | lol
*Michael P.* | build my own
*Night Spirit* | ok Joy what major toys have you built or have ideas
| to build
*Michael P.* | home depot of Graybar Electric...unistrut works
| wonders
JOY | Larry built a bondage table
JOY | the top is plywood
JOY | he measured it just for me
Dodgy | can't wait to meet you all in the pub, you sound
Dodgy | rivetting!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
JOY | even padded it
Dodgy | bye
JOY | and it has velcro straps all over
tina<busy> | hiya and huggss MoL <s>
JOY | byeDodgy
Master of Leisure | hiyas,,tina....huggggz....hon
JOY | <<<MoL>>>>>
*Michael P.* | shakes MoL
Master of Leisure | hugggs..joy...<S>
*Michael P.* | hiya Lynn
Master of Leisure | Hey,,,Michael...shakes.....
tina<busy> | hi Lynn <s>
JOY | <<<Lynn>>>>>>
Lynn | evening <s>
Lynn | hi Michael
Lynn | huggs Joy <s>
Master of Leisure | huggggz..Lynn...<s>
GrandPaDeSade | Hi MOL
Lynn | huggers MoL, Sir <s> kisses
Lynn | huggs tina <S>
Master of Leisure | Hello...GPDS....good to see ya....
JOY | hi GrandPa <S>
Lynn | hugs to Grndpa and NS <s>
GrandPaDeSade | Hi Joy
Master of Leisure | winks at NS...hugggz..darlin
GrandPaDeSade | Hello to you too Lynn
*Night Spirit* | we made a bondage table also--we went to the
| salvation army, bought a cheap
*Night Spirit* | coffee table
*Night Spirit* | put eye bolts and hooks on it
JOY | <S> NS
*Night Spirit* | hugs MoL and Lynn and whoever else
Lynn | <S@TI>
TI | <S>
GrandPaDeSade | The hooks and eyebolts cost more than the table.
JOY | lol
Master of Leisure | chuckling.....
*Michael P.* | I'm doing the same to my raised waterbed...exactly
| the way you did it to that
*Michael P.* | table NS
*Michael P.* | as soon as White Knight comes over to help me put
| that monster together
JOY | our table looks like a mutated mushroom
GrandPaDeSade | We also have a futon and trundle bed we have done
| that to.
*Michael P.* | shakes TI
*Night Spirit* | you know you can make a nice bondage chair with a
| major chair, eyebolts and such
TI | are we talking eyebolts under the bottom of a
| waterbed?
TI | hmmmm.............did that 2 years ago
JOY | we have a king size 4 poster waterbed
TI | shakes Michael
JOY | we use the drawer handles from the underdrawers too
| for tying
*Michael P.* | no on the side. I used to lace rope through the
| drawer handles when it was put
*Michael P.* | together before, but the way GP and NS did their
| coffee table has more options
*Michael P.* | so I'm doing it that way
*Night Spirit* | other major devices can be if you have
| rafters---can make some wonderful hoists
*Night Spirit* | :)
Lynn | we've made a dungeon in the barn..added a wood
Lynn | stove...all those beams <s>
JOY | and the poles that hold up the basement
*Michael P.* | love barns
*Michael P.* | and picnic tables at remote campsites
Lynn | the barn is...phenomenal
TI | rafters hoists??............rings a bell
Lynn | <s>
TI | <s>
*Michael P.* | I had an adventure in a barn once, used it for a
| setting in a story, those
*Michael P.* | places seem perfect for play
*Michael P.* | cold as hell though
Lynn | pulleys...tack
*Michael P.* | stables...
Lynn | we got this huge wood stove..it's remarkably warm.
Lynn | lol..the horses watch tho
*Night Spirit* | Michael I love that story is still my favorite
TI | that sounds wonderful Lynn
Lynn | you gave me the idea, TI
*Michael P.* | (s) thanks NS
*Night Spirit* | anyone ever confert a saw horse?
*Night Spirit* | convert
TI | I havent NS.............but it sounds like an idea
Lynn | my husband made a cross of sorts
*Michael P.* | I saw one that was padded, not pretty but it worked
| well. It had four eyebolts
*Michael P.* | attached...quiet effective for displaying the sub
*Night Spirit* | Lynn tell us more
Lynn | it's actually an X
JOY | <S>Lynn
tina<busy> | the sawhorse is the one we want to make...or
| get.....if were lazy<g>
Lynn | it has hooks and eyes..
Lynn | and leather straps
*Night Spirit* | we have a double X-frame on hinges
GrandPaDeSade | Be careful with the rafters if doing suspension.
| They weren't designed for
GrandPaDeSade | that. You may need to re-inforce.
*Michael P.* | its perfect for lazy people tina (s)
tina<busy> | did you amke that or buy it NS?
tina<busy> | <g> Michael
*Night Spirit* | I bought tina from a man who makes them (a friend)
TI | in Lynn's barn..............I'm sure it will be ok
| GPDS
tina<busy> | it was very nice NS
Black Knight | <wanders in>
Lynn | these rafters are heavy duty.. I couldn't make it
| fall
Lynn | down
Black Knight | ebening all
Lynn | hi BK <s>
JOY | <<BK>>>
*Michael P.* | you bought tina? on my
*Michael P.* | shakes BK
Master of Leisure | evening,,,BK
GrandPaDeSade | Barn should be OK, just a warning for others though.
tina<busy> | hiya Bk <S>
Black Knight | <huggss Joy and lynn and tina
Black Knight | <shakes MoL and Micheal
Black Knight | whats the topic tonight?
GrandPaDeSade | I know you'd hate to have your submissive hurt in a
| fall, then hit by the
GrandPaDeSade | ceiling falling on her too.
Master of Leisure | lafffin.....
*Michael P.* | that would sorta spoil the moment GP
Lynn | we just began flogging a bit recently <sits on one
Lynn | cheek>
Master of Leisure | always re-inforce the ceiling or beams...GP
*Night Spirit* | in our old apartment we had a short hall to the
| bathroom we put bolts in and
*Night Spirit* | rings and chains---and decorated it with dungeon
| wall paper (like you get at
*Night Spirit* | halloween) made a simple holder for a sub
JOY | major toys BK
Black Knight | ohhhhhh
*Night Spirit* | tina you mentioned you like the St. Katherine's
| wheel--why?
Black Knight | <sits down> somthing i really have little knowledge
| about
Black Knight | sept rack <laffin> i had to learn about them kitten
| loves them
Black Knight | now i love em
Black Knight | <S>
Ghost | now you love them?
*Night Spirit* | tina?
Black Knight | yup i like using i guess i should say
Black Knight | <sits back listening>
tina<busy> | I have a fancy for being inverted NS <g>.....and
| the total helplessness of
tina<busy> | it.....being turned this way and that....I adore
| being restained in any
tina<busy> | manner...one day when we get rich....Ill have one
| <g>
Black Knight | same here tina when i get rich also
Black Knight | <chuckling>
tina<busy> | lol
*Michael P.* | never used a rack...but I'm willing to learn
Black Knight | there is just somthing about them Micheal
Black Knight | i think it is the mediveal quality to them
Ghost | learn it
Black Knight | and with my historic fasinations
tina<busy> | there is a lovely bondage table at the
| nutcracker....which is
tina<busy> | .....inclining......both ways.....is great
Master of Leisure | looks at the ghost
Black Knight | they just kinda well do it for me<chuckling>
*Night Spirit* | I have seen folks build amazing devices in one
| house has like 3 stalls made up
*Night Spirit* | of 2x4 and 4x4 and he has eyebolts and hoists in
| them
Black Knight | i ran across somthing on the net once called a
| bondage box does anyone know
Black Knight | about that?
tina<busy> | yes
*Night Spirit* | going to a place has a rack--tonight---I want to
| use it but that place is too
*Night Spirit* | dark and crowded
*Night Spirit* | ok BK tell us
*Michael P.* | sounds cozy NS
tina<busy> | if its the same one I saw BK...has been a fav of
| mine since I saw it...although
tina<busy> | Ive never had the chance to use one....have only
| seen it on the net...
Ghost | nns
Black Knight | well it is a box like a coffin sortof
Black Knight | full body lenght box probably 6 or seven feet long
tina<busy> | different than I saw BK...
Black Knight | the sub lays in it
Black Knight | on there stomach or back
Black Knight | isuppose
Black Knight | then it has little stocks in it
Black Knight | for the feet
Black Knight | and head
Black Knight | and across the waist and wrists
Black Knight | that can be slid in across them
Black Knight | holding them in
Ghost | its good for you, bk
tina<busy> | do they close the lid?
Black Knight | and supposrting the top of the box
Black Knight | you can tina
Black Knight | but you don't have to i suppose
Black Knight | it has screens on both ends of the box
Black Knight | for air to get in
Black Knight | but that is all i remeber about it
tina<busy> | ohmy......would puch my limit
tina<busy> | push
*Michael P.* | sounds interesting
tina<busy> | <--very claustrophobic
Black Knight | i think you could do other things with it too
TI | dont like enclosed spaces tina?
Lynn | I wouldn't like that
tina<busy> | no no TI....
Black Knight | but i can't remeber what
*Michael P.* | doesn't sound like you can get easy access, and
| that is always an important
*Michael P.* | requirement
*Michael P.* | can you get them out in a hurry BK?
tina<busy> | no saying I wouldnt do it for Daddy...Id try...but
| ....gawd would be difficult
TI | there's only a few tight dark spaces I do like
Black Knight | thinking
Ghost | punishing
Black Knight | depends on if you lock the stocks in place Micheal
LARRY | I JUST GOT HERE. WHAT THE HELL ARE YALL TALKING
| ABOUT
*Michael P.* | arming squelch gun
*Michael P.* | lose the caps Larry...please
Black Knight | if you just slide them in probably
Black Knight | you would just throw open the lis
Black Knight | lid
*Night Spirit* | Larry this is the weekly conferance in silken
| ties--tonight's topic is major
*Night Spirit* | toys
*Michael P.* | I hestitate to use something that can be quick
| released
Master of Leisure | get lost...larry.....
Black Knight | and slide out the stocks inside and they would be
| free
*Night Spirit* | and please lower your capslock
LARRY | ok ok
*Night Spirit* | anyone here build stocks?
Black Knight | i read they use it mainly for parties when alot of
| peole are there
Black Knight | I could NS
tina<busy> | has anyone used a deprivation chamber..or
| device<lookin at Michael>?
*Michael P.* | or dungeons, they do sorta take up a lot of space
*Night Spirit* | I saw a site on the net--guy built them on the end
| of the bed
Black Knight | i work in a sheet metal shop want some metal stocks?
Black Knight | <laffin>
tina<busy> | great idea...remembering that one
*Michael P.* | not I unless you count hole cages in walls
*Night Spirit* | BK move in here and build me toys <wg>
bossman | hiya all
Black Knight | 3'' angle heavy heavy duty stocks
tina<busy> | <g>.......MP
Black Knight | <lafffin>
Black Knight | ooooooo NS
TI | that is heavy duty BK
Black Knight | such a tempting offer my lady<kotc>
*Night Spirit* | ok Michael you have a cage?
JOY | glue some soft fur in them BK
GrandPaDeSade | Hey, we have room BK
Black Knight | <s> k Joy
tina<busy> | MP......Spartan...has plans for me and that chamber
| in feb.......<gulp>
*Night Spirit* | BK :)
*Michael P.* | no NS, I used the one in the wall at the House of
| Differences
*Michael P.* | excellent tina, I wanna watch
Black Knight | <<<<DITTO
tina<busy> | I didnt think I would like that cage as much as I
| did MP......was a very
tina<busy> | content feeling.....actually
Black Knight | <sorry excitment sowing through<wicked grin>
*Michael P.* | took marie through the bars...interesting scene
| (EG)
Black Knight | <Laffin> i bet it was Micheal
Black Knight | oh yess CLANG oh harder CLANG
Black Knight | <LMAO
*Michael P.* | yes BK, then I felt sorry for her so I walked up
| and put myself through the
*Michael P.* | bars so she wouldn't hurt herself
*Michael P.* | lol
clever | ANYONE FROM UK
Black Knight | oh good
Black Knight | <Laffin harder>
*Night Spirit* | we have a room closet under the stairs thinking of
| insulting it and put a cage
*Night Spirit* | door on it
*Michael P.* | I thought it best
Jenni | Evening all <s>
*Michael P.* | hiya Jenni
TI | hi Jenni
tina<busy> | hi Jenni
Jenni | hiya Michael
Black Knight | eveing jenni
clever | HHEEEELLLOOOOO JENNI
Jenni | Hello Ti......tina <s>
JOY | <<<Jenni>>>>>
Black Knight | you know NS
tina<busy> | I like that NS<g>
Jenni | Hello Black Knight
Jenni | <<<<<<<<<<JOY>>>>>>>>>>
Jenni | hi clever
clever | WHERE U FROM JENNI
*Night Spirit* | clever this is a scheduled conferance in silken
| ties--topic is major
*Night Spirit* | toys--please lower the capslock
*Night Spirit* | no trolling during conferances
*Michael P.* | that space would be a nice sub pen NS
Black Knight | you could put a solid door with a little bared
| window in it
Jenni | thank you NS
Black Knight | and keep it dark
Black Knight | kkinda like a sesory depervation room
Black Knight | escpically if you put thick insulation in it
*Night Spirit* | BK I am serious move in I have a nice gurney for
| you to sleep on
*Michael P.* | mmm, interesting thought there BK, and add a mini
| cam
tina<busy> | lol
Black Knight | and kinda made it sound proof
Black Knight | <chuckling>
*Night Spirit* | oh Michael nice-----
Black Knight | dang i'll give it some thought NS<s>
*Michael P.* | (s) its the little things NS
Black Knight | oooo thats a good idea Micheal
Black Knight | maybe a little speaker so you could talk to them
| and hear what they are saying
*Night Spirit* | ok anyone here like medical tables?
Black Knight | <s>
*Michael P.* | love em NS
*Michael P.* | didn't before I tried one though
tina<busy> | he sure does ......
*Michael P.* | always thought they were a bit much
*Night Spirit* | we might be getting one here too
*Night Spirit* | Michael tell us why you like it
*Michael P.* | stirrups
*Michael P.* | mmmm
Black Knight | <wondering if i could open BK's warehouse of
| bondage in NC withoue to much
Black Knight | trouble
*Michael P.* | I liked it cause the strirrups and the expose on
| that thing really objectified
*Michael P.* | well, so fisting in public was easy
*Michael P.* | and now you know
Black Knight | <chuckling> of course all of you would have free
| membership
*Michael P.* | t;he exposure that is
*Michael P.* | of course a drop cloth comes in handy as well
*Michael P.* | don't want to harm the leather
Lynn | lol
JOY | <crossing my legs
*Michael P.* | lol
Jenni | lol JOY
Black Knight | ,laffin @JOY
tina<busy> | <grins>
JOY | lol
Black Knight | <laffin @ tina's grin too
*Night Spirit* | ah Joy you would love it if you tried it--not
| anything like the yearly exam
tina<busy> | rofl
JOY | LOL
*Michael P.* | definitely nothing like that
Lynn | I can't see how it's possible
Master of Leisure | lafffin...
*Michael P.* | especially in public
JOY | well you have had kids Lynn?
Lynn | c sections
JOY | but it would be hard to relax in public
JOY | ohhhh
tina<busy> | only for a min Joy <g>
JOY | i was going to say the wild pain of childbirth
| helped me overcome my shyness
Black Knight | <falls out of my chair laffin>
Lynn | and you should see the size of my husband's hands
*Michael P.* | exactly tina, events sorta catch up and the crowd
| gets off in the tunnel
*Night Spirit* | Joy in public when you play trust me when getting
| hot and bothered you do not
*Michael P.* | vision...so I hear (G)
*Night Spirit* | notice anyone or anything
Black Knight | well you know what they say about large hands Lynn
Black Knight | <laffin>
tina<busy> | <nods> Michael
Lynn | no BK.. I'm naive..tell me
Black Knight | they wear big gloves
Black Knight | <S>
*Night Spirit* | lol
TI | <always wondered why my hands were so small>
*Michael P.* | I sorta forgot there were people there, almost
| pulled something out and pushed
*Michael P.* | the public envelope
JOY | lol
Lynn | they don't fist, BK
Lynn | <perk> TI
Black Knight | <<has rough hands
*Night Spirit* | well GrandPa has big hands and I love them
*Michael P.* | has two hands
Black Knight | course when you work with sheet metal they have to
| be
*Night Spirit* | ok what other major toys do we like or can build?
Black Knight | <laffin> somtimes i think my skin has turned into
| 24 gauge steel with as much
Black Knight | stuff i should get cut on
GrandPaDeSade | Funny, I never considered them especially big.
Black Knight | chairs NS
Master of Leisure | ~~~only uses one hand...<g>
Black Knight | or have we talked about that already
*Michael P.* | I'm building a spanking station out of unistrut
| metal pieces..sorta gallows
*Michael P.* | like thing except for over the head restriaint,
Master of Leisure | and I have small hands.......I think...in comparison
Black Knight | <laffin> using the other to type with right MoL?
*Michael P.* | on a "H" base
*Michael P.* | easy and sturdy
Master of Leisure | lafffffin......
Lynn | lol BK
Master of Leisure | yeaa,,BK..the large hand
Black Knight | <s>
tina<busy> | take a pic of it when its finished Michael
TI | unistrut is like an ERECTor set.......
*Michael P.* | yes TI, exactly
Black Knight | you know
TI | just cut and bolt together
Black Knight | i just thought of something
*Michael P.* | perfect stuff for when you can't make it permanent
Black Knight | you design that right Micheal you can make that
| dang thing portable
*Night Spirit* | you know if you all make a toy send me a picture I
| can put it on the site to
*Night Spirit* | show off your masterpieces
*Michael P.* | that's the way I'm working it out BK
TI | and it can be modified at anytime
Black Knight | <thinking> i could probably come up with something
Black Knight | that too TI
*Michael P.* | I can do better NS, I can send pics and the
| blueprints
Black Knight | hell lets go into business
BOMB | Hi! everybody
Lynn | TI..send your pics
Black Knight | Micheal sells em I make em and TI thinks of the
| upgrades
Black Knight | <Laffin>
Lynn | <s>
*Night Spirit* | Michael --wonderful--BK sounds good to me
*Michael P.* | complete with part numbers
*Michael P.* | yep
JOY | I will have Larry take a pic of the table he made NS
BOMB | hello
*Night Spirit* | hiya Bomb welcome to the weekly silken ties
| conferance--tonight's topic is
*Night Spirit* | major toys
BOMB | everybody
*Night Spirit* | great Joy--thanks
TI | my pics Lynn?
JOY | the legs come off so we can hide it from the kids
| and the exterminator
BOMB | cool
Black Knight | <LMAO jOy
Jenni | lol JOY
Lynn | yes..of your toys you made, Sir
Lynn | lol Joy
TI | ohhhhh............those toys
TI | <BS>
Lynn | hugs Jenni
Black Knight | oh just as a slide note
Lynn | yess those toys
*Night Spirit* | joy it is like our futons we have eyebolts and
| hooks but them change for
*Night Spirit* | visitation
Jenni | huggggs Lynn
Lynn | TI makes lovely leather toys
Black Knight | i did think up a ankle restraint i have not seen yet
BOMB | what kind of toys
JOY | LOL NS
TI | did I show you those Lynn?
Lynn | yes
TI | <S>
Black Knight | take a peice of pipe like 1/4 inch copper pipe
*Night Spirit* | Bomb nice major toys you tie a nice submissive to
JOY | Larry drilled screws into one of our door frames
| and i can tie him up to it
JOY | using neck ties but it had to come down for company
Black Knight | and bend it into an s shape
*Michael P.* | thinking BK may have a use for the copper rods I
| have for groundiing....
Black Knight | after drilling a hole in the center and both ends
Black Knight | then you can put a rope through the hole
Jenni | Sir G has eyebolts at strategic points all over his
| apartment! <g>
TI | Grounding Michael..............as in electric?
Black Knight | holes
Black Knight | and slide it on the ankles
Black Knight | and pull the rope tight
*Michael P.* | yes TI, 3/4 inch rods
*Night Spirit* | Jenni like us we do to with chains on them
*Michael P.* | six foot lengths
Black Knight | then the ankles are held together quickly
TI | <------Electrical Inspector
Jenni | yyyyyyyep.....love those chains <g>
*Michael P.* | then you know the kind I mean (s) EE
Black Knight | but haven't made it yet will let ya know what
| happens
Lynn | I prefer leather..for some reason
Black Knight | <chuckling>
TI | <S>
Lynn | mostly COLD reasons
Jenni | the chains are attached to leather cuffs,
| Lynn......sometimes <g>
Black Knight | i will remeber to put the leather in the frezzer if
| you come over Lynn
Black Knight | <S>
Lynn | we don't have leather cuffs yet
*Michael P.* | just thinking metal rod can make some quick and
| easy hobbling toys, or
*Michael P.* | spreader bars
TI | <--has made some nice leather items eh
| Lynn?..........fur and all
Lynn | some for my ankles
Lynn | yes, TI.. <s> I want em
*Night Spirit* | TI how do you make them?
copafeel | hello room
tina<busy> | will have to send lynns hubby a chain male<however
| you spell it> dress and tell
tina<busy> | him to put it i the freezer then make her put it
| on....lol
TI | out of raw leather stock NS
Jenni | ok........dumb question.......what's a hobbling toy?
*Michael P.* | lol tina
Lynn | lol tina.. I have a chain dress
Lynn | not mail
*Michael P.* | that would be a nice look
Lynn | yes..goosebumps and chain
Lynn | lol
tina<busy> | well..put it in the freezer...lol
Lynn | blue too
*Michael P.* | and would conduct well too
Black Knight | it is mail
Black Knight | <laffin>
Lynn | tina...next to me, the freezer is warm
Lynn | lol
tina<busy> | gee thanks for the spelling corrections...lol
tina<busy> | rofl..lynn
*Night Spirit* | GrPa is a chain addict love ths sound of a sub
| rattling them
tina<busy> | same ehre NS
tina<busy> | here
Black Knight | a womans butt will go from 108degress to 23 degress
| when she slides into bed
Black Knight | <S>
Lynn | the smell of leather makes me hot
GrandPaDeSade | I LOVE the sound of chains
Jenni | lol.......not to mention her feet BK
Black Knight | <chuckling>those too Jenni
*Michael P.* | life should be like the cover of a Gor novel,
| leather, chain, flesh and not
*Michael P.* | much else...well for subs anyway
tina<busy> | lol
*Night Spirit* | BK not her butt her feet
Black Knight | and they want to put them right one you
Black Knight | <laffin>
Lynn | my butt is cold too, NS. lol
*Night Spirit* | lol Jenni gmta
Black Knight | i literally jumped out of bed once when that happend
Jenni | <g>
*Night Spirit* | ok any other major toys we like?
Black Knight | looks at her and said you got a knife under there?
Black Knight | <laffin>
*Michael P.* | well Lynn, there are some nice floresent lamps that
| get just a little warm that
*Michael P.* | can be inserted to warm buns up...but you might
| freak at that thought (G)
Lynn | inserted?
Black Knight | yes NS i think the subbie is a major toy the most
| fun one too <WEG>
Lynn | in the what?
JOY | pride
*Michael P.* | lol
Lynn | covers? cage?
Lynn | what?
*Michael P.* | internally Lynn
Lynn | Michael!
Black Knight | <laffin> ,thinking Lynn is playing dumb tonight<S>
Jenni | lol
Black Knight | <LAffin>
Lynn | I'll stay cold
Lynn | <thud>
*Night Spirit* | good point BK
Jenni | Michael...........scrolling back a bit........what
| did you mean by a hobbling
Jenni | toy?
Lynn | ties your feet up..
tina<busy> | nitenite all <S>
Lynn | like horses, Jenni
tina<busy> | thanks
Black Knight | night tina
Jenni | nite tina <s>
Black Knight | hugggssssssssssssss
Lynn | can't walk far
Lynn | huggs tina
*Michael P.* | I mean rods of wood or metal that aren't as long
| as spreader bars that would
*Michael P.* | attach to ankle cuffs
Lynn | if at all
TI | huggs tina
*Michael P.* | they restrict movement
Jenni | ahhhhhh, thanks
*Michael P.* | can be one piece
*Michael P.* | or broken in the middle and attached with a tack
| ring
Lynn | You've probably seen prisoners hobbled on tv, Jenni
Jenni | got it, thank you
*Michael P.* | welcome
Jenni | yes........I understand now
SUGS | Hi
*Michael P.* | makes playing hopscotch a real challenge
Jenni | lol......I'll bet
Lynn | is that really a toy, Michael?
Lynn | that light you were talking about?
*Michael P.* | definitely Lynn
*Michael P.* | maybe not a major toy
Lynn | is it morphed for D/s or specifically for it?
*Night Spirit* | hiya Sugs and welcome to the weekly BDSM conferance
| in Silken ties--tonight's
*Night Spirit* | topic is Major toys
*Michael P.* | but that would depend on the space the wearer was
| in
*Michael P.* | both Lynn
Lynn | what's the original use for it?
Black Knight | i think i would like to own a senory depervation
| tank one day <random thought>
TI | could use one of the new bulb replacement
| flourescent tubes
*Michael P.* | to prevent escape, freedom of movement
Lynn | deprivation <spelling lesson>
TI | screw it into a drop cord
*Michael P.* | wasn't permanent
Black Knight | what ever <S>
Lynn | the light?
*Michael P.* | lol
*Michael P.* | oh
Jenni | naivety here..........I can't imagine the benefits
| of the sensory deprivation
Jenni | room
Lynn | nor can I, Jenni
*Michael P.* | the light's intention is to shed light
Lynn | is it safe to insert into a body internally?
*Michael P.* | tubular drop lamp
Jenni | How does it work? Why does it work? Anyone?
*Michael P.* | if it were sterilized yes, say it done in Japan
Black Knight | the mind is the one place that can do the best
| torture Jenni and Lynn
*Michael P.* | amen BK
Jenni | go on......
Lynn | Michael..what if it broke?
Black Knight | think about it the thought of what is going to
| happen is much more frightening
Black Knight | that when it actually does<S>
TI | then you moved too much Lynn
Lynn | there's chemicals inside those things
*Michael P.* | the exterior was black and clear plastic
Lynn | I'm not getting a clear picture of it
*Michael P.* | the kind with some elasticity so it bent slightly,
| not much
Jenni | so.......the Dom would say what was going to happen
| at a later time?
Black Knight | something like that
Black Knight | or drop hints
*Michael P.* | and if you wanted to break it you'd need a saw
GrandPaDeSade | Flouresent tubes tend to be thin glass aren't they?
Black Knight | or maybe just put you in there
Lynn | ohh ok
Black Knight | and wait for a while
*Michael P.* | inside the plastic GP
GrandPaDeSade | Won't they break uf too much pressure is put on
| them?
Black Knight | letting you think about what he could or would do
| to you Jenni
Jenni | hmmmmm
GrandPaDeSade | OK
GrandPaDeSade | Thanks
*Michael P.* | no problem
Lynn | completely encased in plastic?
*Michael P.* | yes Lynn, except where the cord connects, but that
| part stays external
Lynn | <thinking I want one at my feet in the barn
GrandPaDeSade | Wouldn't it need to be hard plastic to avoid it
| being punctured?
Lynn | allen likes me naked
~~~~** Geoff UK**~~~ | hi peopl<
Lynn | and it's a bit chilly
Lynn | on the ground
Black Knight | who doesn't like you naked Lynn?
Black Knight | <chuckling>
Black Knight | <S>
Lynn | swat BK
Black Knight | <laffin>
Black Knight | thanks <S>
*Michael P.* | they aren't hot enough to warm, but warm enough to
| feel if inside
TI | Lynn..................replace one of the bulbs in
| the barn with a heat lamp
Lynn | maybe stand on a heat pad
Lynn | the floor is concrete
*Michael P.* | but...you could put one on a retracting cord case
Lynn | I stood on a bale of hay today lol
*Michael P.* | and pull it out down to light the way, or heat the
| bottom
Black Knight | gas powered heat fan blower
Lynn | lol
Black Knight | woul heat the whole bar
Black Knight | ,S>
Lynn | I think I'll pass on the bottom
Lynn | the floor just stays icy
TI | <thinks there are other ways to heat a bottom>
*Michael P.* | so pad the floor
Lynn | lol TI
JOY | have to help decorate the tree ...thanks NS ...have
| a good nite all <<<<hugs
JOY | around>>>>>>>>>>
*Michael P.* | night Joy
TI | huggs JOY
Lynn | yeah..well it's new.. we're working on it
Jenni | hugs JOY <<<<<s>>>>>>
*Night Spirit* | Night Joy
Lynn | Nighters Joy
Black Knight | night joy<S>
*Night Spirit* | ok any last words on tonight's topic?
TI | Lynn....make sure there is an old quilt out there
| to throw on the concrete
Lynn | thanks NS and Grandpa <s>
Black Knight | be safe and have fun NS<S>
Lynn | ok, TI.. coming to help me break it in?
*Night Spirit* | next week is BDSM in movies and books--main stream
| ones
Lynn | <smiles>
Black Knight | <huggers NS shakes Grandpa
Jenni | thank you NS & Grandpa
Lynn | good topic, NS..
Black Knight | thank you
TI | want help making it an old quilt?
*Michael P.* | thanks NS, GP
Jenni | Good!.....sounds like a great topic!
*Night Spirit* | <--wants BK over to the house for about a yr
Lynn | lol..yes
*Michael P.* | off to pack
Jenni | ohhhhh NS..........
Black Knight | <laffin>
*Michael P.* | night all
Lynn | huggs all <s>
Jenni | I checked out that Xoom address.......
Black Knight | so tempting NS<s>
Lynn | night
TI | night Michael
Jenni | It was wonderful!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Black Knight | night Micheal
Jenni | I can't wait to look at it with SG <s>
TI | huggs Lynn
TI | night all
Black Knight | night Lynn
*Night Spirit* | good night folks and thanks for comming
Black Knight | night TI
Black Knight | <night all
********** 12/13/98 6:08 PM End logging Silken Ties.
TI | thank you NS