How Does Fantasy and
Role Play fit into the BDSM lifestyle
********** 7/5/98 5:01 PM Begin logging Sub Pub - D/s.
Lord E & Lady A | good evening my dear
Lord E & Lady A | goodevening GPDS
GrandPaDeSade[Host] | Good evening LE & LA
GrandPaDeSade[Host] | Hello fit
Lord E & Lady A | for a minute I thought I had crashed, hi fit
GrandPaDeSade[Host] | Hi kim
fit to be tied | hugssss to NS and GrPa... i checked out your wed
| site this week... i am VERY
fit to be tied | impressed
fit to be tied | hi LE and LA..<g>
Lord E & Lady A | hello kim
GrandPaDeSade[Host] | Thank you,
*Night Spirit [HOST] | huggers fit and Lord Ea dn Lady Lucky
fit to be tied | web even
GrandPaDeSade[Host] | NS did all the work on it
fit to be tied | <---- having a really bad typing day so please bear
| with
Lord E & Lady A | <s> thanks NS
fit to be tied | well the site is beautiful and very informative
kim | hi...nice to be here...though i am not normally
| awake at this hour! lol
Lord E & Lady A | I am going to take LA there while she is here
*Night Spirit [HOST] | fit thank you <blush>
GrandPaDeSade[Host] | You must be in europe kim
fit to be tied | huggsss kimmie..<G>
kim | yes..are collars allowed in this forum?
*Night Spirit [HOST] | yes kim they sure are
Lord E & Lady A | join the band of euros kim, <s> hi daisy
GrandPaDeSade[Host] | Yes, of course
daisy | Greetings to all
fit to be tied | hugs diaz
*Night Spirit [HOST] | hiya daisy
fit to be tied | what time is it there kimmie?
GrandPaDeSade[Host] | Hi daisy
NH's kímmie | its 2 am
fit to be tied | <g>
NH's kímmie | i think i have jetlag...lol
fit to be tied | <laffin>
fit to be tied | i hear you talking about the bondage tape earlier
Dakini | evening all
fit to be tied | heard
fit to be tied | hey Dak
NH's kímmie | oh yes....it is amazing stuff!
Lord E & Lady A | hi Dak
GrandPaDeSade[Host] | Kim, notice LE & LA are together, and NS belongs to
| me. So the answer sure is
GrandPaDeSade[Host] | yes.
daisy | Greets Dak
GrandPaDeSade[Host] | Hi Dak
Dakini | :)
Dakini | nice to see you all again im not usualy up at this
| time
Dakini | havent been to one of these conferences for months
fit to be tied | hmmmm that is what kimmie just said
NH's kímmie | thank you GrandPaDeSade.......i know
| fit..daisy...and i just spent the weekend
NH's kímmie | in the UK with Dakini<S>
Dakini | <s>
Dakini | hope the futon wasnt too hard
*Night Spirit [HOST] | Tonight's CO is about Fantasy, role Playing and
| even wearing costumes
fit to be tied | <perk>
Lynn | I'm here <s> hello all
NH's kímmie | oh..fantasy......mmmmm
NH's kímmie | <hug> Lynn!
GrandPaDeSade[Host] | Hi Lynn
Dakini | <drifts of into fantasy world>
Lynn | huggs kimmie love! smooch
NH's kímmie | i have this fantasy about sleeping on a cold hard
| floor....
Lynn | hello GrandPa <s>
Dakini | lol kim
GrandPaDeSade[Host] | Don't drift off just yet Dak, wait til we get
| started.
NH's kímmie | but Dakini made me sleep on a futon and i think
| that fantasy is just not so
NH's kímmie | lovely anymre
*Night Spirit [HOST] | <--loves GrPa in a cape, and nothing else nibbling
| on me
GeorgeOTJ | <sneaks in>
Lynn | <s> NS
GrandPaDeSade[Host] | Or in a suit NS?
Lynn | Hugs George <s>
fit to be tied | mmmmmmmm suits are wonderful
GrandPaDeSade[Host] | Hi George
GeorgeOTJ | (((((Lynn)))))
daisy | <wink at that cutie George>
*Night Spirit [HOST] | oh yes baby, I love GrPa in a suit, and he comes in
| ties my hands with his
*Night Spirit [HOST] | necktie
GeorgeOTJ | Hello all
*Night Spirit [HOST] | yummy
Lord E & Lady A | hi George
NH's kímmie | hey George!! <hugssssss>
Lynn | <likes the lumber jack type herself.. all sweaty
*Night Spirit [HOST] | I used to own a costume shop--it is wild to dress
| up and play
Lord E & Lady A | excuse the delays all LA is being punished <weg>
*Night Spirit [HOST] | anyone here ever dress in a french maid outfit for
| fun?
Lynn | I wear just the apron, NS and make breakfast.. <s>
fit to be tied | nope..... but think that could be great fun
GeorgeOTJ | <Tempeted to sing the Monty Phython version of "I
GeorgeOTJ | am a lumberjack and I'm okay">
Lynn | lol
Lord E & Lady A | oh breakfast, Mh thats and idea
Dakini | some places dont let you dress in certain uniforms
| such as nazi gear
*Night Spirit [HOST] | Dakini such as?--you mean D/s type clubs?
GrandPaDeSade[Host] | Yes, NS, I have. (That'll give you something to
| think anout. A dom in a french
GrandPaDeSade[Host] | maid outfit.)
Dakini | they kind of become more erotic than ever then
fit to be tied | ROFL
GeorgeOTJ | I love the dramatics of dress up. To me the appearal
GeorgeOTJ | is like ribbons on the present
NH's kímmie | i think thats about the only uniform that a club
| doesn't allow
Lynn | lol
Dakini | yes night spirit
Lord E & Lady A | lol
GrandPaDeSade[Host] | A generic military uniform works too.
NH's kímmie | i know a Dom who wears a complete Scout Master
| uniform to play in sometimes
*Night Spirit [HOST] | ok let's discuss dress up--who hear does it to get
| the other member to--explore
*Night Spirit [HOST] | a role or fantasy?
*Night Spirit [HOST] | kimmie I want a photo of that <thinking nasty
| thoughts>
Lynn | I do strange things to entice my husand..
NH's kímmie | and one who has a NYC cop uniforn......and CHIPS
| one too
Lord E & Lady A | LA likes knights and maidens
Dakini | lol
Hot lips!!!!!!!!! | hellooooooo thereeee!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Hot lips!!!!!!!!! | what is sub pub?
GrandPaDeSade[Host] | We have dresses in old midevil costumes fairly
| often.
*Night Spirit [HOST] | like what Lynn?
GeorgeOTJ | I'd gladly dress for an occasion if M'lady wished it
GrandPaDeSade[Host] | dressed even
Dakini | but you can enter the fantasy and role play without
| costumes i find
Lynn | well.. NS>. I may call him and ask him to meet me
Lynn | at a bar..for lunch
*Night Spirit [HOST] | hot lips welcome to the sub pub weekly discussion
| today's topic is role playing
*Night Spirit [HOST] | and fantsy in D/s
Hot lips!!!!!!!!! | do we have no manners here?
Lynn | and when he arrives. I am dressed like a hooker
Lynn | and sitting at the bar
*Night Spirit [HOST] | Dakini I totally agree
GeorgeOTJ | Hello Hot lips, welcome
daisy | <Smiling>
Dakini | its cheaper too :)
GrandPaDeSade[Host] | Hot lips there is a discussion group going on
Lynn | or...meet him at the door..wrapped in saran wrap
Lynn | and a big bow on my ample chest.. lol
Lord E & Lady A | are you talking to LA George? if so she won't
| answer she is under punishment
Lord E & Lady A | for last weeks oputburst
Lord E & Lady A | outburst even
*Night Spirit [HOST] | Hot Lips see message above from me
MoL's Katie J | <has Hot Lips in pc
burning ember | hugggggs all!!
GeorgeOTJ | Talking to Hot lips Lord E, thanks for the tip
| though
GeorgeOTJ | <S>
*Night Spirit [HOST] | oh Lynn I love it and hugs and licks sweety little
| sis and thanks
Master of Leisure | has katie in pc..<weg>
Lynn | <s> NS
GrandPaDeSade[Host] | Thanks Katie
Lynn | welcome
*Night Spirit [HOST] | hugs ember and welcome :)
burning ember | huggggs NS & GPDS : )
daisy | <smooch< lil d
Lynn | <S@ ember > huggs sweetie
burning ember | kisss big D
*Night Spirit [HOST] | Lynn what is his reaction to these outfits?
Dakini | hello ember
Lord E & Lady A | hi ember and Katie
burning ember | »»`*"*¤»»¸,«¤ş*ş¤»,¸««¤Lynn¤»»¸,«¤ş*ş¤»,¸««¤*"*´««
NH's kímmie | <<<<ember>>>>
burning ember | <hugggs Daki>
Lynn | well.. it's a *good* one, NS>.
Lynn | <giggling
burning ember | Kimmie!!! <kissss>
GrandPaDeSade[Host] | Causes a nice picture in my mind Lynn
burning ember | ok all enough hugging done <S>
*Night Spirit [HOST] | Dakini let's here your role playing idea--without
| costumes that you like
NH's kímmie | i find that no mater what i do with my hubby..he
| always just wants to get the
NH's kímmie | clothes off...<pouting>
Lynn | he's ill.. but I think it helps him remain more
| normal.
burning ember | lol
Lynn | like healthy folk
MoL's Katie J | what kind of role playing do you like?
GrandPaDeSade[Host] | without costumes?
Dakini | well i used to get my female sub to play a school
| girl, it didnt seem to matter
Dakini | that she wasnt dresed as one
Lord E & Lady A | thats a shame its more erotic when you leave
| something on
*Night Spirit [HOST] | kimmi I like them to take my clothes off slowly,
| touching and kissing not just
*Night Spirit [HOST] | oull off (well not always)
burning ember | <~liked dressing as nurse last weekend ... that
| looked cute <S>
GeorgeOTJ | I do try and find something very masculine to wear
GeorgeOTJ | for M'lady. As Lynn said, flannel shirts seem to
| make
GeorgeOTJ | a lasting image in her mind. Tool belts, hard hats,
Dakini | ripping clothes of is great though
GeorgeOTJ | the typical male stripper things.
Lord E & Lady A | just like LA NS
*Night Spirit [HOST] | Dakini I like that one too
NH's kímmie | i know.....a pair of panties around the ankles can
| be very erotic<s>
GrandPaDeSade[Host] | I tend to like to have NS undressed (and available)
| as much as possible. that
GrandPaDeSade[Host] | makes it more exciting when she wears a costume too.
Lynn | <perks> love that macho man thang
Dakini | a ripped pair is even better kim :)
Dakini | i like to keep old clothes around to be ripped off
burning ember | <perk>
*Night Spirit [HOST] | well I shop at goodwill sometimes and buy cheap
| clothes for GrPa to rip off
NH's kímmie | sometimes i wear tights.....because they CAN be
| torn open...
Lord E & Lady A | now Dak thats something I like to do have LA do so
| I can rip them of
*Night Spirit [HOST] | oh kimmi good idea
Hot lips!!!!!!!!! | hummmmmm,,,,,,,,,
GeorgeOTJ | <G> EVERYthing can be torn dear
Hot lips!!!!!!!!! | what did I walk into?
Dakini | hmmmm too exciting
NH's kímmie | hot lips..its a discussion .......
Dakini | yes george but you dont want to have your expensive
| silk dress torn off
Hot lips!!!!!!!!! | <not expecting an answer
Lynn | I can't tear everything..<pouts>
NH's kímmie | cling film is fun to rip off
burning ember | lol ... frightening thought of george in a silk
| dress
burning ember | eeeeek
burning ember | :ox
NH's kímmie | saran wrap i should say
Dakini | lol ember
GeorgeOTJ | LOL
burning ember | <g>
GrandPaDeSade[Host] | Using a knife to cut cloths off can be fun too. But
| you need to make sure the
GrandPaDeSade[Host] | sunject is not struggling then. Knife wounds spoil
| the heck out of a scene.
Hot lips!!!!!!!!! | sorry,,, but you guys suck
Hot lips!!!!!!!!! | ciao
GeorgeOTJ | <sigh> always a bridesmaid...
Lynn | <has 103 teddys....don't mind them being cut or
Lynn | ripped off.. <weg>
burning ember | <~only sucks my Master
daisy | 103?
burning ember | lol
Lynn | yep dais
burning ember | lmao George
Hot lips!!!!!!!!! | master?
Lynn | <the lingerie QUEEN
Hot lips!!!!!!!!! | grow up
MoL's Katie J | sucking can be a good part of a roleplay
daisy | <eyes wide> <thinking i have A LOT to learn><G>
NH's kímmie | bye hot lips
burning ember | oh dear
Lord E & Lady A | LA nods in agreement ember
GrandPaDeSade[Host] | Hot lips, leave
burning ember | thought u were leaving Hot Lips??
*Night Spirit [HOST] | she did
GeorgeOTJ | Yes.....good bye Hot lips
Lord E & Lady A | clapiing GPDS
burning ember | phew
*Night Spirit [HOST] | hot lips had to go
Lynn | lol
NH's kímmie | sheeeeesh
NH's kímmie | lol
Dakini | i used to torture my sisters teddy bears in front
| of her, she got quite upset
Dakini | as i was mean to them, i guess it was a bit nasty,
| she was tied to the garden
Dakini | apple tree at the time
burning ember | ROFL Dak
Lynn | lol Dak
GeorgeOTJ | <smirk>
Lord E & Lady A | lol Dak
NH's kímmie | that is truly sadistic Dak..hehehe
burning ember | <~funnily enough can imagine Dak doing that
Dakini | i know i feel bad about it now
NH's kímmie | me too ember
burning ember | u do???
Dakini | she loved those bears
burning ember | sheesh that spolis it all Dak
*Night Spirit [HOST] | oh who here still plays cowboys and indians or ties
| maidens to railroad tracks?
GrandPaDeSade[Host] | Or would like too.
burning ember | <coff> cant say i do
GeorgeOTJ | Okay....what images of Doms leave lasting images
GeorgeOTJ | in the minds of subbies?
*Night Spirit [HOST] | Dakini buty her one now--she'd love it
NH's kímmie | lol..sounds a bit dangerous
burning ember | leather pants George!!! LoL
NH's kímmie | i adore steel toed work boots and thick wool socks
GrandPaDeSade[Host] | There are RR tracks that are not in use any more.
*Night Spirit [HOST] | oh tight leather pants--tight pants--just tight--ok
| naked
Dakini | yes i could get her one of those leather ones <adds
| it to her shopping list>
Dakini | they are harder to knock the stuffing out of <s>
GeorgeOTJ | <taking notes fevorishly>
burning ember | oooo NS!!
burning ember | a Dom w/ a crop <g>
Dakini | i always think doms look nice in leather thongs and
| nothing else lol
GeorgeOTJ | Where Lynn? Where can I find a pair of leather pants
GeorgeOTJ | to fit?
burning ember | always leaves a lasting image... if not a lasting
| mark lol
Dakini | ankle braklets look nice on them too
Lynn | George honey...I have NO idea <s>
GrandPaDeSade[Host] | We do try for the lasting marks when subs enjoy
| them.
*Night Spirit [HOST] | hair all over the chest back..legs and oh god a Dom
| with a hairy butt
burning ember | <~doesnt like them too much... some are pretty...
| others not
daisy | <giggling> Exile is SO hairy
burning ember | breathe NS breathe lol
GrandPaDeSade[Host] | How about describing one of our vampire scenes NS?
*Night Spirit [HOST] | ok anyone like to play pirates or slave traders
NH's kímmie | ohhhhh pirates!!!
GeorgeOTJ | ARRRRG!!
GrandPaDeSade[Host] | I see we are thinking along the same lines NS
GeorgeOTJ | <used to wear an eye patch not by choice
*Night Spirit [HOST] | ok Allyn is naked, in a cape only, crawls up the
| bed and slowly strips me, and
burning ember | oooh NS.. i have to say i read the website... your
| vampire section... and by the end i was
burning ember | thoroughly intrigued....<not to mention wet> lol
*Night Spirit [HOST] | nibbles everywhere, sometimes leaving marks
GrandPaDeSade[Host] | Slave traders can be lots of fun.
NH's kímmie | we did a bit of that last week at the party...we
| strung ropes all over the huge
NH's kímmie | bed and it was like a pirate ship
burning ember | uh huh it was Kimmie <S>
*Night Spirit [HOST] | ember thanks I plan to add a section to it of NS's
| adventures in erotic
NH's kímmie | especially with the Master climbing the ropes like
| sails!
GrandPaDeSade[Host] | NS gets lots of marks when we play vampire.
GeorgeOTJ | I still say we should have a slave or Dom auction
| for
GeorgeOTJ | a children's charity <S>
burning ember | lol kimmie... like ML?
NH's kímmie | mmmmmmmmmm
burning ember | lol mmm too
Lynn | what do I do with all the Doms I buy
Lynn | George?<laffin>
*Night Spirit [HOST] | oh I like be nibbles by my knee, my thighs, ankles,
| betwwen my legs, tummy,
*Night Spirit [HOST] | chest, neck, arms back of neck and back, butt--it
| gets hotter and wilder--yep I
*Night Spirit [HOST] | get marked
GrandPaDeSade[Host] | Or what do they do to you Lynn?
GeorgeOTJ | <winks> You'd go broke wouldn't you Lynn
Lynn | <giggling>
*Night Spirit [HOST] | hey maybe in Sept. for all those comming here
| should have a slave auction???????
burning ember | <~filling out bank loan application form...
| "Reason: Buying Doms at auction" think i'd get
| it??
Lynn | yeah George.. I just might>><checks depth of
Lynn | checkbook> oh well.. there's always a home equity
Lynn | loan
fit to be tied | <perk>
Lord E & Lady A | sorry NS no chance
GeorgeOTJ | ROFL
Dakini | thats a good idea NS
*Night Spirit [HOST] | Lord E have Lady A when she is off restriction
| check the party site for games
*Night Spirit [HOST] | we plan to play
NH's kímmie | thats a good idea if our Masters agree
daisy | <giggling>
*Night Spirit [HOST] | Lord E I would love to buy you <wink>
burning ember | agreed Kimmie - it would be good for you all
GeorgeOTJ | Someone fill me in about Sept. later please
Lord E & Lady A | will do NS
NH's kímmie | i will be there in Sept....with my Master<S>
GrandPaDeSade[Host] | Obviously it would have to be with the masters
| approval.
Lord E & Lady A | oh dear LA is struggling in her chains NS
burning ember | lucky kimmie <g>
*Night Spirit [HOST] | well Lord E even if slave is bought she is owned no
| matter what is done must
*Night Spirit [HOST] | meet with the Owners approval
Dakini | does anyone know the dates for the floxom event
burning ember | heck ya might get $10 for me lol
Lord E & Lady A | no lends fantasy or real, she's mine
burning ember | oooer
NH's kímmie | i'd bid for you ember..you ahve great hands
| hon<smooch>
Lynn | I'll buy you ember.. <s> just for your huggs honey
GrandPaDeSade[Host] | Folsom is the last sunday in Sept. if that's what
| you meant.
burning ember | <blushee>
burning ember | <kiss kimmie>
burning ember | 27th Sept
Dakini | i thougth it was on for a whole week ?
GrandPaDeSade[Host] | burning, I don't think you'd have much of a problem
burning ember | not sure about that GPDS LoL
Dakini | depends who the highest bidder is grand <s>
burning ember | <~going for $15 ... takers?
burning ember | lol
*Night Spirit [HOST] | the events so far for here are Thurs, Fri, Sat. and
| sunday if more people
*Night Spirit [HOST] | replay via the website it can grow
GrandPaDeSade[Host] | Depends on what I meant be problem too. I meant
| getting someone to bid.
NH's kímmie | well...i don't think i'd come all the way from
| Amsterdam just for one day---lol
burning ember | lol
*Night Spirit [HOST] | ember ever play school girl?
Dakini | i heard it was a whole week kim
burning ember | yes....
NH's kímmie | i saw ember in nurses uniform last week,.....hummm
burning ember | love that <S>
*Night Spirit [HOST] | what happened?
Dakini | i wouldnt come for just a day either
burning ember | <~liked the nursey uniform best!
GrandPaDeSade[Host] | The main event is Sunday, but there are events all
| weekend.
*Night Spirit [HOST] | so far it is thurs-sunday
*Night Spirit [HOST] | ember tell us about that
Dakini | the only rp outfits i dont like are baby gear
Dakini | but many do a lot
burning ember | about school girl or nurse?
NH's kímmie | we kept ember running around looking for the KY
| jelly
GeorgeOTJ | <loves stiletto heels with a passion, no not on
| these
GeorgeOTJ | size 13 feet you silly subbies>
*Night Spirit [HOST] | nurse since you seem to wear it just recently
burning ember | lololol kimmie
*Night Spirit [HOST] | ember and kimmie--details
burning ember | well in general.. i think the outfit really
| enhances the mood....
burning ember | <coff-blush-giggle>
GrandPaDeSade[Host] | nurse, I'm suddenly sick and need attention.
*Night Spirit [HOST] | is the uniform--short?
burning ember | <eg>
NH's kímmie | the people who took the tent down asked what kind
| of party it was when they
NH's kímmie | discovered a whole box of latex medical gloves in a
| corner!!!
Dakini | i cant imagine any femdoms really finding their
| male subs attractive dressed in
Dakini | baby gear, they must do it just for them
burning ember | yes NS.....
NH's kímmie | ember wore a cute white "red cross' uniform
burning ember | it is a white short dress... zip up the front...
| quite see through...
GrandPaDeSade[Host] | Dak, if you can think of it, someone, somewhere,
| likes it.
burning ember | with a red cross : )
GeorgeOTJ | x marks the spot?
burning ember | lol
Dakini | true grand, just i cant imagine it being erotic
| myself
*Night Spirit [HOST] | Dakini when I Domme I like my male subs with a
| lovely poodle collar
GrandPaDeSade[Host] | If we all felt the same, it'd be a dull world.
*Night Spirit [HOST] | ember should post it
NH's kímmie | yes she should<S>
GrandPaDeSade[Host] | No, it's a cross, as on the maps to signify "you
| are here"
Dakini | my point was though that i dont think they DO find
| it errotic and that thats
Dakini | fine just to occasionaly do it for someone else ?
burning ember | i think the whole idea of Parent/child fantasies
| are to re-inact paedolphile acts.. which can be
burning ember | good for some people....
burning ember | i dont like the outfits
burning ember | but i can understand the mentality
Dakini | but baby gear !
GeorgeOTJ | I can understand that GPDS, I often get lost when
GeorgeOTJ | M'lady wears outfits
GrandPaDeSade[Host] | No, I have talked to some. they do find it very
| erotic.
NH's kímmie | of course they find it erotic Dak
Dakini | i can see what the "baby" gets out of it but not
| the mummy
burning ember | i dont have a picture of me in the nurses uniform :
| ((((
NH's kímmie | don't be silly
GrandPaDeSade[Host] | Maternal instincts?
burning ember | oh i can Dak....
*Night Spirit [HOST] | yeah but alot of us do school girl and teacher---I
| like to have my dress lifted
*Night Spirit [HOST] | and spanked but I do not think GrPa is thinking of
| sex with kids he is thinking
*Night Spirit [HOST] | of it with me dressed silly
NH's kímmie | i could find mommy roles erotic
Dakini | well kim !
burning ember | i can definitely see what they get out of the
| roles... but not the costume...
Dakini | i know that :)
NH's kímmie | then why doubt that others find it erotic?
*Night Spirit [HOST] | hey just cuz some of us don't doesn't mean it is
| wrong--we all have our thing
burning ember | <~~~reallys gets off on the Daddy/little girl role
| play
*Night Spirit [HOST] | I like vampires
GrandPaDeSade[Host] | Let's go one step further. Some like to dirty their
| pants, and other's like to
GrandPaDeSade[Host] | change them. that would be a turnoff for me.
Dakini | i doubt that as many do as the ones who dress as
| babys
Dakini | find it erotic i mean
burning ember | did u see the Baby clothes stall at smithys Dak?
NH's kímmie | i think you are wrong<s>
Dakini | i never said anything about wrong ns
burning ember | <~didnt find it appealing.... but each to their own
| : )
Dakini | yes i did ember
burning ember | another thing is the act of humiliation with the
| baby outfits i believe...
Dakini | but then i find the idea of toilet sex a turn of too
*Night Spirit [HOST] | personally I love licking, bites, nibbles but some
| think I am nuts--ok most of
*Night Spirit [HOST] | you do
GrandPaDeSade[Host] | Dak, we are all different. I can't understand where
| a lot of people are coming
GrandPaDeSade[Host] | from, but that doesn't meant their feeling are not
| genuine.
*Night Spirit [HOST] | let's get back to ember as a nurse
daisy | <thinking of the frilly little girl panties>
*Night Spirit [HOST] | --you have a hat?
GeorgeOTJ | Okay, what about the sleazy outfits? Who likes those
GeorgeOTJ | as opposed to baby, mother, etc?
Dakini | i wasnt saying they were not grand
burning ember | lol ooooo please : )
*Night Spirit [HOST] | oh daisy
burning ember | no i didnt have a hat : (
NH's kímmie | nurses sometimes have to empty the bedpans<weg>
*Night Spirit [HOST] | oh I like slut clothes and my favorite--lingerine
daisy | yes NS?
burning ember | <~doesnt have a pic of me in the uniform
burning ember | sadly
GeorgeOTJ | I prefer the slut outfits myself
GrandPaDeSade[Host] | OK Dak
*Night Spirit [HOST] | the panties daisy--like the thought
*Night Spirit [HOST] | I like lace
daisy | <S> i am very young and i like to play that up
burning ember | heck i am a slut - i dont need an outfit to prove
| it <g> .. but yeah it helps
GeorgeOTJ | I knew I liked you ember <S>
daisy | pig tails and such<S>
burning ember | lol
burning ember | i love that daisy......
burning ember | i do like the Daddy/ little girl roleplay
burning ember | that does it for me <g>
daisy | me too....<S>
Dakini | but i think people often go along with fantasys/
| roles that they perhaps do not
Dakini | find as erotic as their partners do, its great when
| you share the same fantasy,
Dakini | but if one has a hot spot for a particular
| fantasy, is it a good idea to go
Dakini | along with it just cos your dom/me/ sub wants to ?
burning ember | yes... its all about giving and taking : )
burning ember | imho anyway
burning ember | comprimsing....
Dakini | well there are certain roles i wouldnt do no matter
| how much the sub/ dom
GeorgeOTJ | Agreed
Dakini | wanted to
*Night Spirit [HOST] | yes Dakini---all realtionships are give and take
| and most of us want to see our
*Night Spirit [HOST] | partners happy
Baby Girl | hi guys
GrandPaDeSade[Host] | RememberDak, that people who think alike tend to
| seek and find each other.
GeorgeOTJ | Hello BG, welcome
burning ember | nice nick Baby!
Baby Girl | thank u
Dakini | but if your partner has a fantasy that is a turn of
| for you it could become a
Dakini | problem
daisy | Exile is very much a *caregiver* in our
| relationship anyway
GrandPaDeSade[Host] | True. But that's why we talk
Dakini | im just imagining being with a sub who suddenly
| decides he wants to explore his
Dakini | baby side, i dont think i would do it
GrandPaDeSade[Host] | NS likes blood sports, I don't. So we don't do them
| together.
burning ember | depends what role you are playing i believe... as a
| sub i wouldnt complain and i would find
burning ember | enjoyment in that act that "might have put me
| off"... because my Dom/me finds pleasure in it
*Night Spirit [HOST] | GrandPa likes certain things--does nothing for
| me--I do it because it makes him
*Night Spirit [HOST] | happy--thus I am
Dakini | spoken like a perfect sub ember <s>
GrandPaDeSade[Host] | That's why communication is so important. But, most
| submissives want to please
GrandPaDeSade[Host] | the dom.
daisy | <nod>
burning ember | <giggles> Dak : )
burning ember | its not even wanting to please the Dom i think
| GP...... its finding pleasure that they find
| pleasure in
burning ember | it....
GeorgeOTJ | That's a beautiful gift to give, helping to fulfill
GeorgeOTJ | another's fantasy when it's not part of yours.
GrandPaDeSade[Host] | Agree burning.
Dakini | although had my sister enjoyed me torturing her
| teddy bears it wouldnt have
Dakini | been half as much fun
NH's kímmie | it is pretty amazing how our boundaries are
| stretched as subs when our Doms
NH's kímmie | handle us properly
burning ember | very true kimmie
*Night Spirit [HOST] | <grumble grumble>
burning ember | LOL Dak
GrandPaDeSade[Host] | What NS??
daisy | exactly kimmie
*Night Spirit [HOST] | <--got logged off
Dakini | half of the role plays are about humiliation no ?
*Night Spirit [HOST] | <--is back, rubbing behind
DOMINATOR | Good Evening
burning ember | <coff> yes we notcied u left NS <blush>
*Night Spirit [HOST] | Dakini you think so?
Dakini | hello dominator
Dakini | some seem to be yes
GeorgeOTJ | I've never role played humiliation Dak.
Dakini | dressing a sub as a whore for example dressing a
| male sub as a girl and taking
Dakini | them out
daisy | me either
*Night Spirit [HOST] | Dominator welcome to the weekly sub pub
| CO--tonight's topic is role playing and
*Night Spirit [HOST] | fantasy
Dakini | maybe humiliation is the wrong word
Dakini | but it is fun :)
burning ember | but i like to play "whore"... it doesnt humiliate
| me in the slightest...
GeorgeOTJ | Exactly ember, I don't consider that a derogitory
| term
NH's kímmie | whats humiliating about dressing a male sub as a
| girl?
burning ember | no... nor i ... or slut...
Dakini | humiliation plays a big part in the erotic content
| of a role play for some
Dakini | people
*Night Spirit [HOST] | perhaps humiliation is the wrong word but I see
| wear you are going--it is ok to
*Night Spirit [HOST] | do things in play we normally wouldn't--even if
| humilitating
DOMINATOR | Night Spirit is this your only spirit
GrandPaDeSade[Host] | humiliation within the D/s concept is not
| derogotory because we know it isn't
GrandPaDeSade[Host] | meant that way.
*Night Spirit [HOST] | Dominator please stick to the topic
Dakini | it is for them kim ive met lots of male subs who
| find it very humiliating and
Dakini | thats the attraction
burning ember | oh jees... a Caps letter Dom... one who has to
| shout to make them prove how manly they are
burning ember | <groans>
DOMINATOR | Night Spirit explain yourself quickly
burning ember | DOMINATOR.... please LOG OFF quickly
daisy | <eyes wide>
GeorgeOTJ | Dominator............back off
burning ember | we dont need your rudeness in here
Dakini | lets try and stick to the topic please
*Night Spirit [HOST] | even dressing as a slut, a girl (males) or even a
| vampire is basically for fun
*Night Spirit [HOST] | would any of us really do it if we didn't enjoy it
| to some extent
Dakini | yes
DOMINATOR | If you guys have a BEEF explain now
Dakini | D/s isnt only about enjoyment
burning ember | <groaning>
burning ember | <~~searching for ignore button
Dakini | its about exploring reactions/ boundaries
*Night Spirit [HOST] | Dominator one time and one time only this is the
| sub pub weekly
*Night Spirit [HOST] | conferance--topic is role playing--discussion will
| only be around the topic
GeorgeOTJ | The beef Dominator is that you or no other comes to
GeorgeOTJ | this group demanding anything.
Dakini | role play is all about looking at reactions to
| things, it doesnt ALWAYS have to
Dakini | be fun imo
burning ember | well said George <kotc>
DOMINATOR | says who George
*Night Spirit [HOST] | Dakini --I have a question--let's say you really
| like a sub dressed in a
*Night Spirit [HOST] | leather overcoat--but to them it is stupid--would
| you pursue it
*Night Spirit [HOST] | Dominator I do
Dakini | of course
GeorgeOTJ | Says the whole group Dominator, your arrogance is
GeorgeOTJ | not appreciated and you'll earn no respect by
GeorgeOTJ | showing it.
daisy | <pondering>
DOMINATOR | George talk to the hand
burning ember | heck but who doesnt like leather overcoats? <eg>
NH's kímmie | <thinking>
Dakini | as i would expect them to pursue me dressing in
| something they liked but i
Dakini | didnt necessarily
*Night Spirit [HOST] | Dominator had to talk to the boot
Dakini | lol ember
daisy | part of the job of the Dom/me is to pursue that,
| isnt it?
NH's kímmie | would you do that Dak???
Dakini | yes
burning ember | lol thanks NS <hugs> appreciated
GrandPaDeSade[Host] | twice.
Dakini | possibly <s>
GeorgeOTJ | <fumes but doesn't push it in the group>
*Night Spirit [HOST] | ember sweety anytime
burning ember | :)
burning ember | aww Georgey come to ember for a cuddle
Lord E & Lady A | sorry folk we are going to the West country
| tomorrow so a early start, see you
Lord E & Lady A | all next week, take care, thanks as usual GPDS, NS
| and Katie
GeorgeOTJ | <G> Thanks darlin
*Night Spirit [HOST] | so Dak basically a give and take---ok you really
| dig a female in a leather
*Night Spirit [HOST] | overcoat--it is hot sexy you adore it--she says no
| way--then what?
burning ember | <~cuddles George
Dakini | if you just stay with what you like and know turns
| you on all the time you
Dakini | never expand your fantasy life but just play the
| same ones out again and again
*Night Spirit [HOST] | hugs Lord E and Lady A be good <wink>
Lord E & Lady A | we will try <weg>
GeorgeOTJ | Bye Lord E & Lady A
burning ember | be safe Lord E & LA
Dakini | id talk about it ns, and try and come to a
| compromise
GrandPaDeSade[Host] | But maybe if she tried it she would like it.
Lord E & Lady A | bye all
*Night Spirit [HOST] | Dakini excellant point
GrandPaDeSade[Host] | Bye LE & LA
burning ember | u never know until u try.............
burning ember | but then again.......
*Night Spirit [HOST] | it is fun trying new things--isn't it?
burning ember | some things i KNOW i dont want to try...
Dakini | me too
NH's kímmie | not me
daisy | i didnt know that i enjoyed a great many things
| until He pushed the point with
daisy | me
*Night Spirit [HOST] | ember such as--and I mean things you have been
| asked to
Dakini | but they are few, baby, toilet sex thats about it
*Night Spirit [HOST] | well that is undersxtandible
*Night Spirit [HOST] | understandible--needs to type english
GrandPaDeSade[Host] | It has been my experiance that you should never say
| never in the scene. I do
GrandPaDeSade[Host] | things all the time I said I would never do when I
| started.
GeorgeOTJ | That's another topic all in itself, how hard to push
burning ember | baby outfits as Dak said.... i would do it if it
| pleased Master... but i wouldnt like it at all...
| toilet sex
burning ember | also i dont like...
*Night Spirit [HOST] | yep never say never say not at this time
Dakini | how do people break a scene after
burning ember | i dont "want" to try it.... but... what choice do i
| have? <g>
Dakini | so as not to be living it all the time ?
GrandPaDeSade[Host] | "At this point in my life that holds no interest
| for me"
*Night Spirit [HOST] | ember ever tried something and felt silly but when
| you did it was so wonderful
*Night Spirit [HOST] | you wanted to do it again and again?
burning ember | yes <S>
daisy | <VBS>
burning ember | Daddy/little girl roleplay... i thought that was
| absolutely silly until i tried it lol
*Night Spirit [HOST] | ok Doms how do you get a sub to try something new
| that basically they think is
*Night Spirit [HOST] | silly
GrandPaDeSade[Host] | How many have tried something they knew they
| wouldn't like just to please
*Night Spirit [HOST] | ember ever do your hair in pigtails?
GrandPaDeSade[Host] | someone, and found they loved it after all?
burning ember | NS - if you saw my hair.... LOL
daisy | <- loves those pigtails
*Night Spirit [HOST] | ember we want to--pictures girl
folie^A | Hi everyone!!!
burning ember | <~~doesnt think she could physically get her hair
| in pig tails LOL
folie^A | hugs ember and kimmie!
burning ember | Oh NS.. here in the library search for Seddy.jpg
*Night Spirit [HOST] | BTW for any here--you want to post anything erotic
| nature to our bdsm site are
*Night Spirit [HOST] | welcomed too
burning ember | huggggggggs folie!
GeorgeOTJ | I've always gone under ther premis with my sub that
GeorgeOTJ | she be willing to try something once and then we
GeorgeOTJ | discuss it afterwards, look honestly at how we felt
GeorgeOTJ | about it. If nothing else it's a growth experience.
folie^A | hello Night Sprit
daisy | i agree with George... we do that too
folie^A | oops Spirit too
NH's kímmie | folie..gosh...you are up late too!!!!
*Night Spirit [HOST] | hiya folie and welcome to our conferance--this week
| it is role playing and
*Night Spirit [HOST] | fantasy
folie^A | oh good!
NH's kímmie | 3 am!
burning ember | 2am and loving this conference!!!
*Night Spirit [HOST] | anyone here ever get tied by their hair?
Brian's baby | hello
burning ember | yes NS...........
folie^A | Hey its 9PM here kim! i'm in FL!!!!!
NH's kímmie | oh...i forgot you went! sorrrrrry
burning ember | see my hair on the pic... lol... theres a lot to
| tie though
GeorgeOTJ | Sometimes even a experience you don't enjoy can
GeorgeOTJ | be very enlightening as to what you DO enjoy or an
GeorgeOTJ | insight into reasons for related things.
folie^A | brb a sec
Dakini | too late for me id better get some sleep all,
| thanks for keeping me awake <s>
Dakini | night all
burning ember | hugs Dak
NH's kímmie | night Dakini! <kiss>
GeorgeOTJ | Night Dak, sweet dreams
*Night Spirit [HOST] | Night Dakini
burning ember | ok...
GrandPaDeSade[Host] | Just looked at your pic. lots of hair, but i think
| you could do it.
burning ember | a fantasy roleplay scene...
GrandPaDeSade[Host] | Night Dak
burning ember | of the Rapist/victim....
burning ember | has anyone got thoughts on that?
NH's kímmie | i better go to bed too.....sweet dreams and all
| that<S>
GeorgeOTJ | Touchy one ember
NH's kímmie | kisssssssssssssses
burning ember | <~interested
GeorgeOTJ | Have to be careful there
burning ember | i know....
GrandPaDeSade[Host] | NS and I do rapes scenes a lot.
burning ember | i'm interested
GrandPaDeSade[Host] | Night kim
burning ember | heck George we have to be careful with everything
| we say <s>
*Night Spirit [HOST] | ember have to be careful of flashbacks and have a
| good concern DOM but yeah I
*Night Spirit [HOST] | do it and love it--but I trust GrandPa
GeorgeOTJ | I'm interested as well but that's such a emotionl
| and
GeorgeOTJ | lasting impression.
*Night Spirit [HOST] | I wrote a story on it for a list---maybe I should
| post it
GrandPaDeSade[Host] | I have forced her down, cut her clothes off, raped
| her, calling her insulting
GrandPaDeSade[Host] | names all the while.
burning ember | hmmm
burning ember | oh <perk> GPDS!
*Night Spirit [HOST] | but I trust Allyn he would never hurt me for real I
| say red it stops he holds me
GeorgeOTJ | I'd say there should be a good deal of discussion
GeorgeOTJ | about it before a Dom insues the scene
burning ember | i do *love* that roleplay - i wondered if anyone
| else had an interest in it
*Night Spirit [HOST] | I rarely have to, because I know he is safe
*Night Spirit [HOST] | so makes it very fun
*Night Spirit [HOST] | very wicked
GrandPaDeSade[Host] | The key here is that she knows I don't really feel
| that way.
burning ember | agreed NS... its lovely you have that trust <S>
*Night Spirit [HOST] | before doing something like that you need to know
| and trust who you are with
GrandPaDeSade[Host] | And since she has been raped for real, it is a way
| for her to take ownership of
GrandPaDeSade[Host] | that.
GrandPaDeSade[Host] | She is in control and can stop it at any time.
burning ember | to be honest it is nothing i have tried... but the
| thought and talk of it really intrigues me
*Night Spirit [HOST] | that is does--no matter what in the fantasy I and
| GrPa are in control
GeorgeOTJ | I love using physical force. Not abuse, just force.
GeorgeOTJ | How do others feel about the physical man handling
GeorgeOTJ | of others?
*Night Spirit [HOST] | no harm
burning ember | yes...
burning ember | i love it George...
burning ember | <g>
*Night Spirit [HOST] | love it George to feel helpless with the man I love
| is very erotic
GrandPaDeSade[Host] | As long as the submissive has the power to stop it
| if it causes a flashback.
burning ember | thats what i like about "Rape roleplay" .. the
| physical force...
burning ember | the helplessness...
nefertiti | may I ask a question, please?
burning ember | the brutality of it
GeorgeOTJ | The same with the child / daddy thing then ember?
GrandPaDeSade[Host] | I've go one for you burning, NS has held women down
| for me. How's that for a
GrandPaDeSade[Host] | rape fantasy. (Again consentual.)
GeorgeOTJ | <listens to nefertiti
burning ember | no George.....
GrandPaDeSade[Host] | Yes nefertiti
nefertiti | George: Thank you. Who did the choosing here. He
| chose her, or the reverse?
burning ember | Daddy/child is not like rape to me personally.. its
| a lot more caring.. like nurturing.. there are two
burning ember | ways... nurtute or the paedaphilic act of
| "incest"...
GeorgeOTJ | Whom are you refering to nef?
nefertiti | whatever you are talking about
burning ember | GPDS.... i love that as a fantasy....
GrandPaDeSade[Host] | nefertiti, we are talking about roleplaying.
GeorgeOTJ | If you are talking about D/s relationships in
| general
GeorgeOTJ | nef, the sub choices the Dom
GrandPaDeSade[Host] | It is consentual.
nefertiti | George: Oh I see. Thankyou
nefertiti | thank you too Grandpa
burning ember | <~mind buzzing now <G>
GrandPaDeSade[Host] | Feel free to ask questions.
GeorgeOTJ | That is to say....there is no Dom untill the sub
| gives
GeorgeOTJ | of themself to the Dom
nefertiti | <thinking>
burning ember | GrandPa... going bck to earlier.. about my hair...
| somebody suggested some kind of "hair
burning ember | bondage"... ever heard of that?
nefertiti | no
GrandPaDeSade[Host] | burning now wants to be held down. . .
GeorgeOTJ | Tell me you have long hair ember <hands folded>
burning ember | <giggles>
*Night Spirit [HOST] | yes ember I used to have long braids to my rear
| many folks talked of tieing
*Night Spirit [HOST] | them to posts
GrandPaDeSade[Host] | No, but I would imagine it would be some method oif
| securing you by your hair.
burning ember | umm George... pic is under filename Seddy.jpg
GeorgeOTJ | Thanks ember <S>
GeorgeOTJ | Well, baby is throwing a fit, I best be off
burning ember | i'm interested in that
burning ember | sounded very erotic
GrandPaDeSade[Host] | I love to grab a handful of hair. Very effective.
daisy | <- has that long hair<S>
daisy | smoochies George
burning ember | <~has about ten handfuls of hair rofl
GeorgeOTJ | Thank you folks, it's been most educational
burning ember | hugs George be safe
GrandPaDeSade[Host] | How many here use safewords?
*Night Spirit [HOST] | ok any last words?
daisy | i do
burning ember | yes
GrandPaDeSade[Host] | Bye george.
burning ember | well...
*Night Spirit [HOST] | <--uses them
burning ember | i tend to work on the Red, yellow, green system...
daisy | me too ember
daisy | amber and another word for red<S>
GrandPaDeSade[Host] | Best system as far as i'm concerned burning
burning ember | especially if scening with people i dont know...
GrandPaDeSade[Host] | It gives you the ability to slow a scene down or
| change it without stoping it.
burning ember | ive only ever twice had to say red... and both were
| at last weekeneds party.....
daisy | <S>
burning ember | i had many limits stretched
burning ember | lol
burning ember | in a good way of course
*Night Spirit [HOST] | ok folks thanks once more for stopping by and
| joining into out CO--I wish to
*Night Spirit [HOST] | thanks Katie and Grandpa and all of you
burning ember | awww <pout-sniffle>
daisy | Hugggss NS
GrandPaDeSade[Host] | Stretching limits helps us grow. . . sometimes
| anyway.
daisy | smoochies lil D
burning ember | huggggs NS the hostess with the mostess!!
*Night Spirit [HOST] | next week's CO is about Switches---the folks who do
| it both ways...hugs ember,
*Night Spirit [HOST] | daisy
*Night Spirit [HOST] | hugs crickett
burning ember | <~has a *lot* to say about that
burning ember | <S>
GrandPaDeSade[Host] | Thank all of you. this wouldn't work without all of
| you.
daisy | <wondering where lil d is when i am asking
| questions in 10>
burning ember | awwww i'm here daisy
daisy | <smooch> crickie
burning ember | with my Domme side <s>
burning ember | lol
daisy | u shoulda been there last nite lil d
burning ember | <kotc> GPDS
daisy | i had LOTS of questions going on then
burning ember | thankyou both
burning ember | awww big D...
daisy | Huggs G'pa
burning ember | i'm all ears now sweetie...
daisy | <- always in need of some sort of assistance
GrandPaDeSade[Host] | huggs right back at you daisy
burning ember | <~here now... not going anywhere : )
********** 7/5/98 6:19 PM End logging Sub Pub - D/s.