Switches
********** 7/12/98 4:58 PM Begin logging Sub Pub - D/s.
SideWinder (Berlin) | oh great ... are we going to the hitting on her
| thing
SideWinder (Berlin) | again?
Karen | the conference is about to start
twin/male | why do you have to proof everything, why not take
| it as it comes
Pierre | yep
Rob | Are we capable of "change"?
SideWinder (Berlin) | <looks at the clock> oh, yep
Pierre | Yes we are Rob
Lord Excalibur | hi GPDS and NS
*Night Spirit [HOST] | good evening all and good morning Lord E
Pierre | It seems we have some spectators
SideWinder (Berlin) | <walks over to a table in the corner with his drink
| and
SideWinder (Berlin) | looks around>
Lord Excalibur | thanks for reminding me NS
Karen | <waves>
Lord Excalibur | <s>
Lord Excalibur | hi Karen
twin/male | <waves back>
Pierre | <wishing that Karen would speak to him>
SideWinder (Berlin) | <joins in the general waving>
Karen | <thinks the flies took off>
Rob | Since I first came upon this site and came at you
| awful statements and ignorant
Rob | remarks, have I changed into a philosophical
| intellect? Or was I always the
Rob | same person?
Pierre | <waves, but a little blurry>
Pierre | Rob you were and still are a ... in the ...
twin/male | which conference did you mean Karen
SideWinder (Berlin) | rob ... as i said ... perception compared to
| reality ....
Karen | the one on D/s
Karen | i guess
SideWinder (Berlin) | switches is the topic this week, isn't it?
*Night Spirit [HOST] | the weekly sub pub conferance is going to begin
| soon-tonight's topic is Switches
Pierre | Karen , KAAAAARRREEEEEEN
Pierre | Pleas ?
twin/male | hate conferences, likes to have a nice chat though
GrandPaDeSade[Host] | Hi all. Sorry,
SideWinder (Berlin) | just wondering ... why was the last log taken out
| of the
SideWinder (Berlin) | library?
GrandPaDeSade[Host] | I was afk for a min.
Rob | Has anyone here ever been truly hurt by a member of
| the opposite sex/
SideWinder (Berlin) | in what way rob?
SideWinder (Berlin) | emotionally or physically?
Rob | Emotionally?
SideWinder (Berlin) | YES
Rob | Do you think it is hard for men to admit this?
(V)ístress | hello all
fit to be tied | <sitting down gently on her very sore bottom>
(V)ístress | <s>
SideWinder (Berlin) | hello
SideWinder (Berlin) | i don't know .. it isn't hard for me really
fit to be tied | hugsss NS.... GrPa
twin/male | hello mistress
Monk's Gypsy | <-sitting down in the corner
(V)ístress | huggs pretty fitty
Lord Excalibur | hi fit
(V)ístress | <g>
Rob | How did you cope, Side?
SideWinder (Berlin) | I am not sure that i completely have
(V)ístress | i thought tonight i better pop in as its about
| switches hehehehe
fit to be tied | hugsss ember..... LE
(V)ístress | >G<
Rob | How long ago was this?
—•°Ñ¡kk¡°•—™ | dang
(V)ístress | hugs nikkers
—•°Ñ¡kk¡°•—™ | <~~~sub...woofer
(V)ístress | lol
—•°Ñ¡kk¡°•—™ | means submissive bitch
GrandPaDeSade[Host] | Huggs fit
(V)ístress | lol you are not a sub nikks lol
twin/male | did you ever get hurt Karen?
fit to be tied | ok..... i cannot think of his last name....can
| someone remember the last name
fit to be tied | of Bob_______ the master at the single tail?
—•°Ñ¡kk¡°•—™ | i am
GrandPaDeSade[Host] | Sorry if I missed anyone while i was afk
Karen | <nods>
SideWinder (Berlin) | a few weeks
—•°Ñ¡kk¡°•—™ | i just cant take a good whippin is all
¤Thë Jðñåh¤ | oi1 oi! oi!
(V)ístress | are we talking about getting hurt or Switches?
*Night Spirit [HOST] | yes tonight's CO is about switches and I do not
| mean the kind that grows on
*Night Spirit [HOST] | trees
twin/male | hurt badly?
(V)ístress | oi jonah!
david b | hi
—•°Ñ¡kk¡°•—™ | both
(V)ístress | lol NS hugs hon
(V)ístress | <~burning ember
—•°Ñ¡kk¡°•—™ | who wants to make me do stuff?
*Night Spirit [HOST] | hugs ember
—•°Ñ¡kk¡°•—™ | i'm down
david b | me
—•°Ñ¡kk¡°•—™ | k
—•°Ñ¡kk¡°•—™ | try me
(V)ístress | oh nikks lol shaddap lol
Rob | I'm going to another site. Too crowded here. Thanks
| for chatting with me.
—•°Ñ¡kk¡°•—™ | lol
¤Thë Jðñåh¤ | {{{{{{{{{Karen}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}
Monk's Gypsy | bye Rob
—•°Ñ¡kk¡°•—™ | =0x
fit to be tied | NS.... GrPa either of you know his last name....(or
| have any idea who i am
fit to be tied | talking about)?
twin/male | bye rob
Karen | bye rob
SideWinder (Berlin) | bye rob
*Night Spirit [HOST] | The conferance will start in a minute all who are
| in this room may only stick
*Night Spirit [HOST] | to the subject
GeorgeOTJ | Evening folks....I'll be a bit quiet for a
| change...taking
GeorgeOTJ | care of the wee one right now for a bit....a Daddy
GeorgeOTJ | Dom's work is never done <S>
Karen | <hugs Jonah>
Monk's Gypsy | hi Karen
SideWinder (Berlin) | <sits down listening for a moment then>
(V)ístress | oh George!!!
(V)ístress | >perk<
(V)ístress | erm
Karen | <smiles to Gypsy>
*Night Spirit [HOST] | sorry fit--no idea
~wrywry~ | evening :-)
(V)ístress | ¸,«¤º* «°«°«´¯`·.¸>×wrywry×<¸.·´¯`»°»°»*º¤»,¸
Monk's Gypsy | hugs wry
(V)ístress | nikks ya can stop now lol
fit to be tied | <wishing she could remember>
—•°Ñ¡kk¡°•—™ | whew
—•°Ñ¡kk¡°•—™ | lol
~wrywry~ | hugggggs to all <s>
(V)ístress | lol
GrandPaDeSade[Host] | NS, Gonna go put some drops in my eyes
—•°Ñ¡kk¡°•—™ | see, i'm a good sub
¤Thë Jðñåh¤ | oi Georgey where you been?
(V)ístress | lol nikk
~wrywry~ | NS.. conference tonight?
*Night Spirit [HOST] | on Switches
(V)ístress | on switches
twin/male | i`m going, not so interested in the conference,
| have nice chat
~wrywry~ | <s>
(V)ístress | bye twin
—•°Ñ¡kk¡°•—™ | wots on switches?
Monk's Gypsy | bye twin
GeorgeOTJ | I'm easy to find, hard to nail down Jonah...<shakes>
(V)ístress | this is a conference nikks
*Night Spirit [HOST] | Ladies and Gentlemen welcome to the weekly sub pub
| Conferance on switches
—•°Ñ¡kk¡°•—™ | i know
—•°Ñ¡kk¡°•—™ | i mean, yah?
SideWinder (Berlin) | <pours himself a new Southern Comfort Ginger Ale>
(V)ístress | thanks NS <s>
MoL's Katie J | good evening, everyone :-)
Monk's Gypsy | hi Katie
fit to be tied | huggssss kj
(V)ístress | »»`*"*¤»»¸,«¤º*º¤»,¸««¤Katie
| J¤»»¸,«¤º*º¤»,¸««¤*"*´««
*Night Spirit [HOST] | Switching is the art of being both a bottom and
| top, or into Sadomasochism
—•°Ñ¡kk¡°•—™ | everyone is so polite
—•°Ñ¡kk¡°•—™ | wow
Lord Excalibur | sorry everyone whos entered been chatting, my
| attention is here now though <s>
¤Thë Jðñåh¤ | <cant keep up .... help mommy!
Monk's Gypsy | <-listening
MoL's Katie J | hiya Gypsy, hugs fit and Seddy
*Night Spirit [HOST] | in case none of you knew I am a switch
(V)ístress | <g>
—•°Ñ¡kk¡°•—™ | <~~switching
*Night Spirit [HOST] | which means I am submissive (only to GrandPa) and I
| am Mistress to others
Lord Excalibur | oh I think we know that NS <s>
(V)ístress | <s>
*Night Spirit [HOST] | <ggl> I adore playing both sides of the fence
(V)ístress | <~me also
—•°Ñ¡kk¡°•—™ | i do that too
(V)ístress | <s>
—•°Ñ¡kk¡°•—™ | hehe
SideWinder (Berlin) | sound familiar ...
Lord Excalibur | well tonight I shall just sit on it
—•°Ñ¡kk¡°•—™ | umm...=0x
(V)ístress | lol LE
*Night Spirit [HOST] | I love to have a female or male kneel before me
*Night Spirit [HOST] | but I also like to submit to GrPa
—•°Ñ¡kk¡°•—™ | r u a guy or girl?
—•°Ñ¡kk¡°•—™ | wooops
*Night Spirit [HOST] | Nikki please stick to the topic
—•°Ñ¡kk¡°•—™ | alrightie
Monk's Gypsy | which do you prefer NS
—•°Ñ¡kk¡°•—™ | both, duh
*Night Spirit [HOST] | Gypsy that is hard to say, I feel comforible in
| both, with being a Mistress I
*Night Spirit [HOST] | can excersize my wicked sense of humour
—•°Ñ¡kk¡°•—™ | kewl
*Night Spirit [HOST] | with being sub I can relax and allow someone else
| to take control
*Night Spirit [HOST] | Ember how about you?
Monk's Gypsy | but where do you get the greatest pleasure
GrandPaDeSade[Host] | <---Watching NS's answers. This may be an unfair
| spot to put her on with me
GrandPaDeSade[Host] | here.
—•°Ñ¡kk¡°•—™ | does it matter?
(V)ístress | i have to say something here and wonder who
| agrees..............
—•°Ñ¡kk¡°•—™ | i do
—•°Ñ¡kk¡°•—™ | oops
SideWinder (Berlin) | <listens up
GrandPaDeSade[Host] | How anbout when we double dom NS?
Lord Excalibur | I would say it was brilliant for a bit of
| punishment GPDS
*Night Spirit [HOST] | Gypsy truth my greatest pleasure is double domming
| with GrPa, even though he is
*Night Spirit [HOST] | the Owner him and I together make a hell of a pair
(V)ístress | that some of the best Dom/mes are "shaped" from subs
—•°Ñ¡kk¡°•—™ | agree
GeorgeOTJ | Tag team Doms....cool
MoL's Katie J | is a switch born or made?
—•°Ñ¡kk¡°•—™ | born
*Night Spirit [HOST] | ember that is hard to say, I was taught by a
| Switch, always was one
—•°Ñ¡kk¡°•—™ | i was born
SideWinder (Berlin) | <-- was more made
fit to be tied | a small number perhaps ember... but generally no
MoL's Katie J | I know a lot of subs who have felt their Dom/me
| sides after exploring their sub
MoL's Katie J | side.
SideWinder (Berlin) | hmm ... that would be me.
—•°Ñ¡kk¡°•—™ | shhhh
GrandPaDeSade[Host] | I don't think there is much difference in origin
| with switches. They just enjoy
GrandPaDeSade[Host] | both worlds.
Monk's Gypsy | have you ever been a switch Katie
(V)ístress | ive been taking more pleasure in being a Domme
| lately
(V)ístress | but i guess thats because im exploring that side
| now more than sub
MoL's Katie J | I have Dommed a few times .. it's a rare mood, not
| a need.
Sedz —•°Ñ¡kk¡°•—™ | ahem
(V)'s TomCat | <---knows she is a great Mistress
(V)ístress | lol
GrandPaDeSade[Host] | In some ways I envy switches. They are happy on
| both sides of the whip.
Sedz —•°Ñ¡kk¡°•—™ | <~~great sub
Monk's Gypsy | how does MoL react to that Katie
MoL's Katie J | I have one guy still coming looking for me after a
| year <G>
*Night Spirit [HOST] | well there are always bottoms who top or topping
| from the bottom. But I love
*Night Spirit [HOST] | to take control--as you all know I am a
| sadomasochist--I love the art of pain,
*Night Spirit [HOST] | torture and fun
MoL's Katie J | I have not done that since i've been with him,
| Gypsy .. we are exclusive with
MoL's Katie J | one another.
(V)'s TomCat | BRB
Sedz —•°Ñ¡kk¡°•—™ | ouch
Lord Excalibur | sorry GPDS, NS, Katie, I have to leave, I will
| check out the text in your site
Lord Excalibur | GPDS & NS, bye for now
Monk's Gypsy | like my Master and me
(V)ístress | Tom is my sub <s>
Pannddora | Huuuuuggggsss wrywry, Katie, NS,
Sedz —•°Ñ¡kk¡°•—™ | what about me?
Pannddora | Hi to everyone else.
Sedz —•°Ñ¡kk¡°•—™ | <pout>
Sedz —•°Ñ¡kk¡°•—™ | oh
(V)ístress | nikks u aint my subby lol
GrandPaDeSade[Host] | I know the reason I am NOT a switch is in great
| part because of what happened
GrandPaDeSade[Host] | to me as a child.
Sedz —•°Ñ¡kk¡°•—™ | i am
GrandPaDeSade[Host] | Bye LE
*Night Spirit [HOST] | hugs Pann
Sedz —•°Ñ¡kk¡°•—™ | i have a question
*Night Spirit [HOST] | yes Nikki?
Sedz —•°Ñ¡kk¡°•—™ | What does it take to be a sub?
Sedz —•°Ñ¡kk¡°•—™ | i'd like to be Sedz
Sedz —•°Ñ¡kk¡°•—™ | <s>
Monk's Gypsy | how can a slave let her Master know if she has a
| desire to switch
Monk's Gypsy | and still be a slave
Sedz —•°Ñ¡kk¡°•—™ | good question
(V)ístress | awww nikk <s>
Sedz —•°Ñ¡kk¡°•—™ | <s>
*Night Spirit [HOST] | Gypsy a slave/sub should always feel comfortable to
| communicate with the Owner
GrandPaDeSade[Host] | Just say so. At least with me, I encourage honesty.
| How can we both be happy
GrandPaDeSade[Host] | otherwise.
(V)ístress | i had to tell mine Gypsy it was very hard...... i
| thought it may not "fit into
(V)ístress | his plans"
*Night Spirit [HOST] | what is a sub---that is someone who gives control
| away, the dom takes the
*Night Spirit [HOST] | control and uses it
*Night Spirit [HOST] | A switch gives and takes
GrandPaDeSade[Host] | Some doms don't like switches. they scare them.
SideWinder (Berlin) | why that?
Sedz —•°Ñ¡kk¡°•—™ | cause someone else takes over
GrandPaDeSade[Host] | This will be a multi line answer.
SideWinder (Berlin) | <-- waits patiently
GrandPaDeSade[Host] | Many subs are in control of others in their lives,
| and sub to let go.
GrandPaDeSade[Host] | Many doms are the reverse. It's how they control
| something in their lives.
(V)ístress | i know many Dom/mes who feel threatened and that
| some feel it is
(V)ístress | some kind of power loss on their part
Sedz —•°Ñ¡kk¡°•—™ | <singing> i'm coming out, i want the world to know
| i gotta let it show....
*Night Spirit [HOST] | I have a friend who is a total Dom--when he met me
| he was shocked and took
*Night Spirit [HOST] | months to really understand that switches are not
| subs
GrandPaDeSade[Host] | Suddenly the thing they are trying to control wants
| to go out on it's own.
(V)ístress | yes NS... agreed
GeorgeOTJ | I've noticed that many subs later become interested
GeorgeOTJ | in Doming after their confidense in D/s is built and
GeorgeOTJ | they have been taught and have experinced a good
GeorgeOTJ | deal.
GrandPaDeSade[Host] | This is a threat to their self image.
(V)ístress | <~~me, George <s>
SideWinder (Berlin) | well, but if they'd really realise that the sub is
| just
SideWinder (Berlin) | giving the control instead of them just taking it
| from
SideWinder (Berlin) | the sub .... how does it make a difference (hopes it
SideWinder (Berlin) | isn't too dumb a question)
*Night Spirit [HOST] | George I agree with you
(V)ístress | <does also
Sir James(UK) | Hello everyone
SideWinder (Berlin) | does too
Pannddora | I have a question...what exactly would a sub that
| only switches under her
Pannddora | Master's orders be called??
Pannddora | Hi James
GrandPaDeSade[Host] | I honestly don't think some Dom's realize that. Or
| if they do, they may not
GrandPaDeSade[Host] | fully accept it.
Monk's Gypsy | is it easier for a sub to become a switch than a
| slave
Monk's Gypsy | and do you see a diffrence in a sub and a slave
*Night Spirit [HOST] | Personally I love a strong man--not strength but in
| will and character one who
*Night Spirit [HOST] | is assured of himself. It is hard to control a
| SAM, switch and bitch, but
*Night Spirit [HOST] | GrandPa does it well, I love to kneel to him and
| together we aim for my total
*Night Spirit [HOST] | submission
(V)ístress | oh definitely
GeorgeOTJ | I think it shows a great deal of self confidense and
GeorgeOTJ | shows a well rounded person to be able to switch.
GeorgeOTJ | The very fact that one switches from a Dom to a sub
GeorgeOTJ | exposes them metally and shows a great inner
GeorgeOTJ | strenght.
(V)'s TomCat | BRB........have to send a file now
GrandPaDeSade[Host] | I think some doms feel they are taking control from
| the sub. They get very
GrandPaDeSade[Host] | surprised when the revolution comes.
(V)ístress | thanks pet <G>
Sir James(UK) | It may interest you to know I was sub until I met a
Sir James(UK) | Master in London. I learned a lot from him and
Sir James(UK) | became dom
Sedz —•°Ñ¡kk¡°•—™ | hi ann
GeorgeOTJ | (mumbles damn spelling)
ann | hello
Sir James(UK) | Now I have 2 slaves
Sedz —•°Ñ¡kk¡°•—™ | r u a dom ann?
ann | no
Sedz —•°Ñ¡kk¡°•—™ | oh
*Night Spirit [HOST] | BUT I love to take a sub into a space, a place
| where his/her submission to me
*Night Spirit [HOST] | gives me the feeling of control, and GrandPa who is
| Dom only can not do that
(V)ístress | nikki... normally lower cases symbolises a sub...
| and upper a Dom/me...
Sedz —•°Ñ¡kk¡°•—™ | oh
Sedz —•°Ñ¡kk¡°•—™ | alrightie
(V)ístress | *normally*
GrandPaDeSade[Host] | I don't know of many couples where the dom shares
| power with their sub in
GrandPaDeSade[Host] | doming another.
(V)ístress | i love that also NS..... taking them to their sub
| space...
Master of Leisure | Sir James...how do you define......a
| slave........and a
Master of Leisure | sub...in your terms
Sedz —•°Ñ¡kk¡°•—™ | i have another question
(V)ístress | sure nikki
*Night Spirit [HOST] | yes Sedz?
SideWinder (Berlin) | with two switches in a couple ... what do you do if
| both
SideWinder (Berlin) | are in the same frame of mind?
Sedz —•°Ñ¡kk¡°•—™ | Since Seddy is my dom, is it ok for me to have a
| slave, like be a dom to someone
Sedz —•°Ñ¡kk¡°•—™ | else?
GrandPaDeSade[Host] | I can't take you into subspace and have you give me
| control NS???
(V)ístress | >groan< i am not your Dominant Nikki....
Sir James(UK) | I don't define between slave and sub,
(V)ístress | Tom is my sub
(V)ístress | and you are not
Sedz —•°Ñ¡kk¡°•—™ | fine
(V)ístress | <g>
*Night Spirit [HOST] | to me a sub submits to the will of the Dom<me> and
| a slave makes no decisions,
*Night Spirit [HOST] | just gives totally into the Owner
Sedz —•°Ñ¡kk¡°•—™ | =0(
Master of Leisure | do you consider them....the same...Sir James.....or
Master of Leisure | are there differences in your mind
Monk's Gypsy | but there is a difference between a slave and a sub
*Night Spirit [HOST] | yes GrPa, but I can not take you there
*Night Spirit [HOST] | hugs MOL
(V)ístress | but in a situation like that - yes..... IF you feel
| the need to switch
—•°Ñ¡kk¡°•—™ | k
Sir James(UK) | MOL, no difference
Karen | not all subs are slaves
Master of Leisure | huggggs...NS.....and I agree with your distinction
Master of Leisure | between a slave and a sub
(V)ístress | <~~~sees a diff. in subs and slaves
—•°Ñ¡kk¡°•—™ | so subs are not slaves?
Master of Leisure | I disagree..Sir James...there are big differences
SideWinder (Berlin) | thinks: sub=limits set by him/herself, slave trusts
| the
SideWinder (Berlin) | dom/me to set the limits
(V)ístress | ¸,«¤º* «°«°«´¯`·.¸>×MoL <s>×<¸.·´¯`»°»°»*º¤»,¸
Master of Leisure | smiles at V
—•°Ñ¡kk¡°•—™ | lol
(V)ístress | very nice deifinition SW
Sir James(UK) | Then I only have slaves
Monk's Gypsy | I am a slave
GrandPaDeSade[Host] | Sir James, big differences.
ann | i am a sub, i have not yet reached the slave
| stage<s>
—•°Ñ¡kk¡°•—™ | when do u reach slave stage?
Monk's Gypsy | I serve my Master in every way
GrandPaDeSade[Host] | Good SW
(V)ístress | i like SW's definition
*Night Spirit [HOST] | Nikki that is up to you and the other party
ann | when i am totally owned
Master of Leisure | okay,,,,and you make all the decisions.....your
Master of Leisure | slaves do nothing but obey your every wish and
Master of Leisure | command...right..Sir James
—•°Ñ¡kk¡°•—™ | k
SideWinder (Berlin) | thanks thanks thanks ...
GeorgeOTJ | IMHO I think switching helps to understand and do a
GeorgeOTJ | better job on either Top or Bottom. Without knowing
GeorgeOTJ | how the other feels I find it hard to believe that
| one
GeorgeOTJ | can do as complete a job as one who has
GeorgeOTJ | experienced the other side.
Sir James(UK) | Correct MOL
*Night Spirit [HOST] | we all create our realtionships and make it what it
| is and grow from there
(V)ístress | then Sir James, no offence, but id like to meet
| this so called Master who
(V)ístress | taught you what you know
Master of Leisure | so your slaves have no minds of their own......Sir
Master of Leisure | James......no free will at all
charlie :-) | <dashes in... tosses some popcorn into Katie J's
| cleavage...
charlie :-) | runs away>
(V)ístress | LOL Charlie!!!
—•°Ñ¡kk¡°•—™ | lol
MoL's Katie J | rofl, charlie
Master of Leisure | that is what you are saying.....
Sir James(UK) | You may meet him(V)
(V)ístress | *
Master of Leisure | blink
(V)ístress | oops
(V)ístress | *. gts everywhere lol
Pannddora | LOL and I know who is going to go in after that
| popcorn
(V)ístress | lol
—•°Ñ¡kk¡°•—™ | well, thats enough of my lesson today....i'll learn
| more another day...thanks u
—•°Ñ¡kk¡°•—™ | guys....Sed, still luv u, even tho u refused my
| service....
—•°Ñ¡kk¡°•—™ | <sniff>
*Night Spirit [HOST] | slaves have freewill, they just give the will to
| another
(V)ístress | i think i would have more than a few words to say
| to him though
(V)ístress | hugs nikki.. dont be offended <s>
Master of Leisure | a sub has free will....Sir James......unlike a
Master of Leisure | slave......and she can think and communicate with
Master of Leisure | her Dom
*Night Spirit [HOST] | few Doms want something mindless
(V)ístress | but i have my sub
GrandPaDeSade[Host] | NS considers herself my property, but I can't
| exercize as much control over her
GrandPaDeSade[Host] | as others may do over property without stifiling
| her switch side.
Master of Leisure | if they give it to another,,NS...then they do not
Master of Leisure | possess it......they have givin it up to another and
Master of Leisure | are at the WILL of the other.......do you understand
*Night Spirit [HOST] | ember do you perfer subbing or domming?
(V)ístress | <~thinks maybe Sir J should read Screw the Roses
| and start at the
(V)ístress | basics <g>
SideWinder (Berlin) | another question ... do you think it is possible to
| get
SideWinder (Berlin) | into a 24/7 Ds lifestlye with two switches in a
| couple?
Master of Leisure | I agree..NS......I want an intelligent sub....who
| can
Master of Leisure | think and feel and interact with me......
Sir James(UK) | I think (v) is weak
GeorgeOTJ | ^5 MoL
GrandPaDeSade[Host] | Yes, SW, but it can be difficult.
Master of Leisure | ^5..Geo..good to see you
*Night Spirit [HOST] | MOL only the Owner possess me now, there will be no
| other I submit to, unless
*Night Spirit [HOST] | the Owner releases me, then it is my thing to do
| with it as I will
(V)ístress | i havent yet decided to be honest, NS.... the side
| of me that is a Domme
(V)ístress | is still being explored ... so i cannot honestly
| comment as yet
Monk's Gypsy | I serve my Master, but he continues to set goals
| for me to challange me
(V)ístress | Sir James... one who calls another weak is weak in
| himself .....
Master of Leisure | understood..NS....
Master of Leisure | same with katie and I
Monk's Gypsy | I am constantly learning from him, expanding my mind
*Night Spirit [HOST] | yes SW it is, if they have an open and honest
| relationship--of course many
*Night Spirit [HOST] | switches are bi and poly
Master of Leisure | but I was referring to ...in general..not specific
Rob | Hello
GeorgeOTJ | Personally I feel the more intelligent and
| interactive
GeorgeOTJ | the sub, the more satisfying the control I have over
GeorgeOTJ | her is.
SideWinder (Berlin) | poly means? playing with more than one person?
Lori | hi all
Sir James(UK) | I have no interest in your opinion (v)
(V)ístress | very very true George, the same for me
~wrywry~ | kids! <f>
*Night Spirit [HOST] | yes I am poly I play with both female and males as
| a Domme, as slave only with
*Night Spirit [HOST] | the Owner
(V)ístress | well SJ i suggest you put me on ignore then - i
| wont disturb the
(V)ístress | conference because of you
Lori | hi george
GeorgeOTJ | ((((Lori)))) Welcome
Master of Leisure | good point...Geo.....i like a sub who responds to
Master of Leisure | me.....intellectually, mentally, emotionally,
Master of Leisure | psychologically and physically....I will have it no
GrandPaDeSade[Host] | Gypsy, in any dynamic relationship, the couple
| should always be learning from
GrandPaDeSade[Host] | each other.
Master of Leisure | other way.....
*Night Spirit [HOST] | Sir James I am interested in all opinions and I
| make the rules here
Monk's Gypsy | true Sir
Rob | Hi Karen
Rob | Hi Lori
Monk's Gypsy | and it enriches the relationship
SideWinder (Berlin) | <makes his own sets of rules and wraps it up nicely
SideWinder (Berlin) | to put it away somewhere>
Master of Leisure | nods at GPDS
*Night Spirit [HOST] | I find very few folks like robots for subs/slaves.
| However I have found some
*Night Spirit [HOST] | who do, and also enjoy furniture
Pannddora | LOL NS
SideWinder (Berlin) | looool ns
MoL's Katie J | NO one is *right* or *wrong* here ... we share our
| views so we can learn from
MoL's Katie J | each other .... <s>
Master of Leisure | i prefer my dogs.....I have total control over
Master of Leisure | them..and they love me....and protect me
*Night Spirit [HOST] | Pann it is true sis, Some Doms make the subs,
| ponies, puppies or a footstool
Monk's Gypsy | a good slave is there to stimulate her Master not
| to bore him
Pannddora | Uhm MoL....now I'm worried <giggle>
Master of Leisure | lafffin.....
(V)ístress | i actually played with a sub last week who claimed
| to be the best sub
(V)ístress | around <laughing>.... but he was so serious...
| never gave any kind of
(V)ístress | feedback to me.... it didnt satisfy me
GeorgeOTJ | <just became submissive to his 4 month old who
GeorgeOTJ | now has a handful of his hair and is pulling with
| all
GeorgeOTJ | now has a handful of his hair and is pulling with
| all
GrandPaDeSade[Host] | MOL! Watch out for Katie after that comment.
Master of Leisure | a good sub..does that gypsy...not a slave..hon
(V)ístress | LOL George
Pannddora | I know NS and I don't understand what fulfillment
| the sub can get from that and
Pannddora | why the Dom would do that because it is not a
| sharingm it is very one sided
MoL's Katie J | <woof>
(V)ístress | lol
*Night Spirit [HOST] | MOL a thought here and you probley the best
| authority on this---Do you think a
*Night Spirit [HOST] | human sub or slave has any similar qualities as
| does a well trained dog?
Pannddora | Oh katie, do tell, are you one of the foofoo ones??
| LOL
Master of Leisure | hehehe..i always watch out for katie..GPDS....she
Master of Leisure | refreshes me everyday....<S>
(V)ístress | <s>
—•°Ñ¡kk¡°•—™ | y come its so quiet?
(V)ístress | i do like to have fun with who i play with -
| whether i am subbing or
(V)ístress | Domming.... maybe thats me.. but some people are
| very serious during
(V)ístress | play....
*Night Spirit [HOST] | and ember I have a question for you--can a slave be
| a good Mistress?
(V)ístress | i dont get satisfaction from that
GrandPaDeSade[Host] | I don't understand furniture either. I do think an
| absolute slave would be fun
GrandPaDeSade[Host] | for a short time, but would very quickly become
| very boring. But, that's only
GrandPaDeSade[Host] | me. We are all different.
Pannddora | Uhm MoL...I thought that was your Zest
SideWinder (Berlin) | <-- thinks that a laughter in ANY game is a good
| sign
(V)ístress | exactly SW lol
*Night Spirit [HOST] | good point --why we call it play, play parties,
| play room, play space and toys
Master of Leisure | a h uman sub has many more qualities than a
Master of Leisure | slave or even a dog....NS.......she has the ability
| to
Master of Leisure | communicate freely and honestly and with trust of
Master of Leisure | her Dom.......a slave is at the will of the
| Dom....she
Master of Leisure | only does what she is told...and obeys at all
Master of Leisure | times..thus the lack of free will...below that
| ,,,,,the
Master of Leisure | dog serves his Master at all
Master of Leisure | times....hopelfully,,,,,,and will protect and love
| his
Master of Leisure | Master
SideWinder (Berlin) | I would say (at least for me) because it is not a
| lot
SideWinder (Berlin) | more, for me it is just one of the games I like to
| play
(V)ístress | i believe a slave can be a good Mistress yes.....
GrandPaDeSade[Host] | I went to a game of Dungeon Dice a few weeks ago,
| and many commented on my
GrandPaDeSade[Host] | sadistic laugh.
GeorgeOTJ | his might>
GeorgeOTJ | < is a Grumpy Old German Dom and will have no
GeorgeOTJ | such laughter> <mumbles> I wonder if they bought
Pannddora | If I go by that definition MoL then I am definately
| a subbie LOL
(V)ístress | <thinking on it more, NS
GeorgeOTJ | that?
*Night Spirit [HOST] | George have you ever switched?
(V)'s TomCat | <-----------------is back
SideWinder (Berlin) | Oh, a thing i was wondering, is it true that
| "German" in
SideWinder (Berlin) | terms of playing and sex, refers to SMish stuff?
(V)ístress | welcome back my pet <kiss>
(V)'s TomCat | OoooOOoOOOOo my Mistress
(V)ístress | did you do as I asked?
(V)ístress | <s>
(V)'s TomCat | Yes my Mistress
(V)'s TomCat | :o)
(V)ístress | good pet <s>
GeorgeOTJ | that
GeorgeOTJ | The only one that I've switched with is my
| wife.....it
GeorgeOTJ | was fun but I'd need someone very strong, attentive,
Pannddora | NS...is it important to define whether you are a
| sub or a switch?
(V)ístress | if everyone wants to see what i meant by the
| meaning of "fun play"
*Night Spirit [HOST] | I can tell you all one thing I want want a nice
| little masochist to play with
*Night Spirit [HOST] | <wg>
GrandPaDeSade[Host] | Let's stick to the subject.. Personal stuff in
| private sends during the CO
GrandPaDeSade[Host] | please.
Master of Leisure | chuckling..
(V)ístress | look in the D/s gallery here lol......
| conf0008.jpg.... its an important part
(V)ístress | of it i think
*Night Spirit [HOST] | Pann that is up to you, I define myself as Goddess
| to Most and proprty of one
GeorgeOTJ | and a caring Domme. I'm certainly not opposed to it.
GeorgeOTJ | Damn my screen is slow and cutting me off, anyone
*Night Spirit [HOST] | George have you ever been with someone who fit that
| bill?
Pannddora | NS, it seems so important to others though that you
| define yourself, I was just
Pannddora | wondering if that is like a requirement of the D/s
| lifestyle
**Nurse Nancy** | have you all learned manners?
SideWinder (Berlin) | <raises an eyebrow>
~wrywry~ | <nice tushie>
Rob | Hello Lori?
GrandPaDeSade[Host] | There is no universal D/s dictionarl. Almost all of
| these terms are defined by
GrandPaDeSade[Host] | common usage, and many vary with area of the world
| and individuals.
Master of Leisure | hands nancy a baby bottle..here...hon..something
Master of Leisure | to suck on
*Night Spirit [HOST] | no Pann, sweety to some labels are important, to me
| no matter what anyone says
*Night Spirit [HOST] | I know who and what I am--I am a female bi
| sadomasochistic switch who loves and
*Night Spirit [HOST] | adores the Owner
GeorgeOTJ | else having trouble?
GeorgeOTJ | When I had the chance with the right Domme I was
GeorgeOTJ | too immature in my D/s experience to even realize
GeorgeOTJ | that it was of interest to me. I regreat not taking
| the
GrandPaDeSade[Host] | dictionary even
SideWinder (Berlin) | which takes me back to my questiong about people
SideWinder (Berlin) | referring to "german"
Rob | Lori?
Master of Leisure | there are books to read on the subject..GPDS
Master of Leisure | some very good ones
ann | www.cuffs.com has lots o fgood info on D/s
| lifestyles
(V)ístress | goodbye for now all
GeorgeOTJ | opportunity now.
Monk's Gypsy | bye Mistress
*Night Spirit [HOST] | ann that may be but can't give out websites on the
| chat forums
**Nurse Nancy** | GPDS?
ann | sorry
*Night Spirit [HOST] | and ann I work for them so thanks for the plug
(V)ístress | lol
(V)ístress | <~gon
(V)ístress | gone ven
Pannddora | Well I know what I am, and my Master is comfortable
| with it as I am. It just
Pannddora | doesn't make sense to me sometimes how others
| ridicule just because we don't
Pannddora | fit into some set of guidelines that they have
| interpreted as being acceptable.
GrandPaDeSade[Host] | Yes MOL, but many in the scene will argue with some
| of those definitions. they
GrandPaDeSade[Host] | are really more guidelines than definitions.
*Night Spirit [HOST] | Night ember sweety
GrandPaDeSade[Host] | Yes Nurse?
*Night Spirit [HOST] | Pann sweety that is their problem
*Night Spirit [HOST] | not yours
Master of Leisure | Pannie...each relationship defines
| itself....hon.....
Monk's Gypsy | I agree
**Nurse Nancy** | what is SUB PUB?
š¡ñfü| šôü|™ | so long as your happy Pan it should matter what
| others think
š¡ñfü| šôü|™ | or what they label you as
Monk's Gypsy | it's what works best for the couple
Rob | Anyone here from michigan?
*Night Spirit [HOST] | like me, I never refer to the Owner as "my" owner,
| as property I have nothing
*Night Spirit [HOST] | and I sure don't own the Master
GeorgeOTJ | Night Mistress ((((BEARHUGS))))
*Night Spirit [HOST] | that is me
GeorgeOTJ | BRB, need to reconnect, this is showing up too slow
Master of Leisure | yes,,I agree..they are guidelines from which each
Master of Leisure | person can grasp an idea of the lifestyle and then
Master of Leisure | adapt their own lifestyle with their Dom or sub
GrandPaDeSade[Host] | It is where submisives and dominants gather to talk
| about the lifestyle Nurse.
Rob | Michigan people-hello?
SideWinder (Berlin) | oh rob ... not again
*Night Spirit [HOST] | Nurse this is Compuserve's IChat's sub pub a
| gathering place for those
*Night Spirit [HOST] | interested in submission of others--tonight we are
| holding a conferance on
*Night Spirit [HOST] | switching
**Nurse Nancy** | gross,,,, I'm out of here!!!! to sick for me ciao
Master of Leisure | warming up another baby bottle for the nursie
Master of Leisure | nancie
Rob | Side, where have all the people come from?
*Night Spirit [HOST] | heh-heh
Pannddora | MoL...you can only force feed them for so long <weg>
GrandPaDeSade[Host] | This is a CO on switching Rob. Please stay on
| subject.
**Nurse Nancy** | bottle????
*Night Spirit [HOST] | Rob do you have anything to discuss concerning
| Switching in BDSM if not please
*Night Spirit [HOST] | leave
Master of Leisure | chucklin.....i know....pannie..i know
Master of Leisure | from the Masters Chambers ..Rob....be quiet and
Master of Leisure | watch Rob..and learn something..or go away
GrandPaDeSade[Host] | Nurse Nancy, someone who calls others sick, needs a
| bottle and nurturing.
Master of Leisure | a a butt plug..too...
**Nurse Nancy** | you need a REAL life Grand
Pannddora | NS....how dominant must one get to be considered a
| switch?
Master of Leisure | good bye,,,,nursie
Monk's Gypsy | so do you Nancy
Monk's Gypsy | or you wouldn't be on here either
*Night Spirit [HOST] | Nurse Nan, same message you have something to offer
| about submission or
*Night Spirit [HOST] | switching then speak, if not leave
GrandPaDeSade[Host] | Last chance Nurse Nancy, shape up or leave!
**Nurse Nancy** | I made a big mistake
GeorgeOTJ | <pushes NN out on a gurnsey>
**Nurse Nancy** | sorry, not into this stuff
**Nurse Nancy** | bye
GrandPaDeSade[Host] | OK, bye
Master of Leisure | tht is what your dad said...nancy
fit to be tied | <looking around wondering if there was a direction
| we where going in>
ann | <sitting quietly and listening to learn>
Batman | Nurse, what are you into, lets talk
SideWinder (Berlin) | <gets his bearings again>
*Night Spirit [HOST] | Pann I am wondering that----
MoL's Katie J | %...........Back to the Switches again ..........%
GeorgeOTJ | <winks @ ann> Smart woman there
GrandPaDeSade[Host] | Batman, in private. Stay on subject here.
Master of Leisure | %....Back to the Switches...again......%
fit to be tied | well, just for the record.... i am a switch and
| have been one longer than i
fit to be tied | knew there was a word for it
Master of Leisure | %...We are Family....%
steve 4 uk female | hi
steve 4 uk female | any uk females here?
*Night Spirit [HOST] | Pann does one get a thrill out of topping I guess
| then they are a Dom--if they
*Night Spirit [HOST] | are just doing it to make someone happy (not
| themselves) then they are not Dom
fit to be tied | oh dear
Pannddora | So that would make them not a switch, right?
~wrywry~ | fit?
Monk's Gypsy | I am not a switch, have no desire to be a switch,
| but can role play one at my
Monk's Gypsy | Master's request
*Night Spirit [HOST] | a true switch gets a thrill on either side of the
| fence
fit to be tied | yes wry?
david b | hi
*Night Spirit [HOST] | Gypsy I can understand that
Karen | is there a big difference in the type of thrills on
| both sides?
*Night Spirit [HOST] | Gypsy ever double dom?
Pannddora | Hmmmm, I can't say that I wouldn't get a thrill,
| but I don't know exactly what
Pannddora | would cause the thrill, pleasing my Master or
| Dommeing
~wrywry~ | then isn't the question... do you get a thrill when
| he requests you to switch,
~wrywry~ | Gyps?
Bronco | any real women want to cyber/
Monk's Gypsy | No NS
Bronco | ?
GrandPaDeSade[Host] | This is a CO. Please stay on subject or leave.
Monk's Gypsy | only in the sense that I know I am pleasing him by
| switching
*Night Spirit [HOST] | when I sub I get an energy and sub space is trippy
| with endorphin highs and
*Night Spirit [HOST] | all. Dom space is alot of satisfaction, well being
| feelings of control
Karen | thanks
*Night Spirit [HOST] | but Gypsy hold no thrill for you huh?
*Night Spirit [HOST] | just the fact you are pleasing him
Pannddora | NS don't those feelings of control give you a high
| also?
*Night Spirit [HOST] | yes Pann but a very different one a well being, a
| satisfaction like pride alot
*Night Spirit [HOST] | of pride, sub space gives me high and drunk
Monk's Gypsy | I feel a thrill and a rush knowing that it is
| exciting for him
*Night Spirit [HOST] | different feelings both both enjoyed
GrandPaDeSade[Host] | There can be a dom high. There have been time when
| I have had to "come back
GrandPaDeSade[Host] | down to earth" in order to make sure the submissive
| wasn't injured.
SideWinder (Berlin) | THAT sounds familiar
*Night Spirit [HOST] | I do adore seeing a grown man at my feet begging
| for mercy and yet knowing he
*Night Spirit [HOST] | doesn't want any
Pannddora | Ok...that makes sense to me...do you think you get
| the drunk feeling because
Pannddora | you don't have to be in control and you don't get
| that when you Domme because
Pannddora | you are IN control?
*Night Spirit [HOST] | Pann I feel I get the drunk feeling from the
| endorphin rush
Monk's Gypsy | like in floating
*Night Spirit [HOST] | our bodies can do amazing things and give us great
| amount of pleasure
*Night Spirit [HOST] | yes Gypsy
GeorgeOTJ | Personally I don't feel that I have to be in
| control all
GeorgeOTJ | the time but I do feel that the need to LEAD all the
GeorgeOTJ | time.
GrandPaDeSade[Host] | As a dom/domme, you have to stay in control to
| avoid injuring. That puts a
GrandPaDeSade[Host] | damper on letting yourself go completely.
fit to be tied | good question Pannie...(btw hugs)..... there is a
| real edge there for the
fit to be tied | Dom.... an easy place to get out of control in
| certain scenes....
Pannddora | Do you allow yourself to feel that because you
| don't have to maintain control??
Pannddora | You can kinda let yourself go completely?
Monk's Gypsy | that is a true high
Pannddora | Hugs back at ya fit
*Night Spirit [HOST] | George that is an excellant way of putting it
SideWinder (Berlin) | questions to the switches here ... is there
| actually a
SideWinder (Berlin) | side that you prefer or are they both really equal?
fit to be tied | not equal
SideWinder (Berlin) | and which one do you prefer then?
*Night Spirit [HOST] | Pann I used to alot more then I do now, I have one
| little problem so have to be
*Night Spirit [HOST] | careful esp. during play--I am diabetic--so is it a
| sugar low or sub high
fit to be tied | i prefer to sub
Pannddora | fit....has your Dom ever asked you to be a switch
| for him and if not, if he did
fit to be tied | but i find it harder to sub as well
Pannddora | would you?
*Night Spirit [HOST] | SW it is what I am, both to me are very different
| but I love both
fit to be tied | no he has not... if he did i would
Master of Leisure | George...I lead at all times.......but I have to
Master of Leisure | maintain control of the situation so sthat I do not
Master of Leisure | injure the sub........i am thinking about her at all
Master of Leisure | times.....so my moving into sub-space comes in
Master of Leisure | other ways
*Night Spirit [HOST] | Pann same question to you
Monk's Gypsy | how do you cope with it NS, diabetes, I am a
| boderline diabetic
Monk's Gypsy | and get scared once in a while
Monk's Gypsy | during a scene
*Night Spirit [HOST] | Gypsy before play take a blood sample---if low eat
| then play if high--go for it
Pannddora | Hmmm, well I'm not sure how to answer NS...I don't
| think that I'm a switch,
Pannddora | however I do know that when the time comes I will
| play the Domme role in front
Pannddora | of Aga. Does that make me a switch? I guess I am
| still very confused about
Pannddora | this.
Monk's Gypsy | thanks NS
GrandPaDeSade[Host] | I monitor her very carefully to make sure she
| doesn't get to the point of not
GrandPaDeSade[Host] | recognizing she is having diabetic problems.
fit to be tied | but, Pannie, i have had other Doms ask me to Domme
| their subs... which i
fit to be tied | have... and enjoied it greatly
*Night Spirit [HOST] | take it before in the bathroom or make it part of
| play
SideWinder (Berlin) | <-- thinks switch means that you wish to switch out
| of
SideWinder (Berlin) | your own motivation and not because asked. IMHO of
SideWinder (Berlin) | course
Master of Leisure | that does not make you a switch....fit
*Night Spirit [HOST] | no Pann makes you a person who loves Aga alot, but
| how would you feel
GeorgeOTJ | I understand MoL, my comment about not needing
GeorgeOTJ | control all the time was more in reference to me not
GeorgeOTJ | needing the scene to alway s be my idea or the
*Night Spirit [HOST] | controlling Aga
GeorgeOTJ | fantasy to be just for my pleasure.
GrandPaDeSade[Host] | Play does seem to use up a lot of sugar, Usually
| much lower afterwards.
Master of Leisure | you ar doing it to please a Dom.....not because you
Master of Leisure | wanted to
fit to be tied | no it does not MoL.... i have Dommed all on my own
| too....<g>
Master of Leisure | understood..Geo
fit to be tied | i do it because i enjoy it MoL
Pannddora | <slight giggle> I would love to at least try
| NS...but I know in the end he
Pannddora | will take over, we have tried that a few times and
| he is definately the Dom in
Pannddora | this relationshiip
Master of Leisure | understood...fit
fit to be tied | <smiling at MoL.... batting eyelashes...> what...
| you can't see ME as a switch?
MoL's Katie J | I can <G>
*Night Spirit [HOST] | <ggl> Pann....in my heart I tease GrPa but could
| never see him other then Dom.
*Night Spirit [HOST] | BTW my last relationship he was switch also--was
| interesting
fit to be tied | <snicker>
SideWinder (Berlin) | I wonder ... the switches. Would you give one side
| up
SideWinder (Berlin) | for someone?
fit to be tied | yes
Master of Leisure | smiling.....fit..i did not say that...and Yes....i
| have
Master of Leisure | pictured you as a Domme.....at times....I have no
Master of Leisure | doubt you could Domme...hon
fit to be tied | the right person
Master of Leisure | <snortle>
fit to be tied | <blushing now>
Pannddora | Ya know, I would have to agree with you, I like Aga
| as a Dom, I think that I
GrandPaDeSade[Host] | NS did for awhile. Until she understood that it was
| OK with me.
Pannddora | would lose some respect for him if he truly allowed
| me or anyone else to Dom
Pannddora | him, sounds weird coming from a sub huh?
*Night Spirit [HOST] | SW no if someone asked then they are being selfish,
| I am very upfront about
*Night Spirit [HOST] | what I am, the partner don;t like it--then is no
| one I want in my life
*Night Spirit [HOST] | no Pann makes alot of sense
GrandPaDeSade[Host] | NS - See my answer.
GeorgeOTJ | That was going to be a question of mine to the subs.
GeorgeOTJ | How many of you would lose respect for a Dom
GeorgeOTJ | knowing they have been Dommed themselves?
Master of Leisure | not at all ..Pannie
fit to be tied | <silently huggging effy doll>
Pannddora | Phew, well at least I know I'm not totally crazy,
| NS LOL
*Night Spirit [HOST] | you wanted me to switch, problem was you wanted me
| doing females, I love to see
*Night Spirit [HOST] | a grown man cower at my feet
MoL's Katie J | I would not.
effy | <silently hugging fit back>
SideWinder (Berlin) | a general question really .. could you see yourself
| in a
SideWinder (Berlin) | relationship without anything like Ds?
fit to be tied | not any more SW
*Night Spirit [HOST] | George I wouldn't. I love the person, not the
| titles
fit to be tied | it is a part of who i am
Monk's Gypsy | not any more either
*Night Spirit [HOST] | SW I sure as hope not....not as much fun, trust or
| communication
ann | it is one's nature
Monk's Gypsy | had a vanilla relationship for many years, could
| never go back
fit to be tied | excellent point NS
*Night Spirit [HOST] | yes ann I agree
GeorgeOTJ | I don't think it's so much the tittle but the fact
| that a
GeorgeOTJ | sub knows that their Dom's mindset is permiable.
*Night Spirit [HOST] | ok folks any last words or questions?
MoL's Katie J | not going back to vanilla again .. I was away from
| here too long as it was <S>
Monk's Gypsy | same here Katie <s>
effy | i tried to go back to vnilla... and i just *could*
| not. Even
effy | tho i loved the man fiercely.
Pannddora | Thank you NS and everyone else
*Night Spirit [HOST] | effy I know what you mean
fit to be tied | <nodding at effy>
Monk's Gypsy | thanks for all the great information
*Night Spirit [HOST] | vanilla is like a scoop of vanilla ice cream--it is
| ok and nice, but D/s is a
*Night Spirit [HOST] | hot fudge sundae
SideWinder (Berlin) | gotta say ... this was sure worth staying up till 3
| am ...
~wrywry~ | thanks NS, GrPa, sweet Katie <s>
Pannddora | ROFL, bring on the Hot Fudge
Monk's Gypsy | how true NS
*Night Spirit [HOST] | Once again thank you all for coming and helping
| make this a special CO as always
SideWinder (Berlin) | lol NS
GeorgeOTJ | As always NS, my appreciation and compliments on
GeorgeOTJ | another informative and helpful CO
Monk's Gypsy | thanks for the tip about diabetes NS
*Night Spirit [HOST] | thank you SW that was the nicest thing evr said to
| us
Master of Leisure | <--prefers a hot fudge sundae..with lots of cream
SideWinder (Berlin) | naaah, ya kidding me
Master of Leisure | hold the nuts....<weg>
GrandPaDeSade[Host] | Thank you all.
*Night Spirit [HOST] | thank you George
MoL's Katie J | my nuts, thank you.
fit to be tied | oh then MoL... have i got the place for you.....
| but you gotta come to Baltimore
~wrywry~ | night everyone <s>
MoL's Katie J | Thanks for coming everyone
*Night Spirit [HOST] | Gypsy it is a lifestyle, reemmber check before play
| and if during make it part
*Night Spirit [HOST] | of it...
Master of Leisure | good discussion tonite..NS.....and thanks...to both
Master of Leisure | you and GPDS
ann | good night all
SideWinder (Berlin) | what's next weeks topic?
Pannddora | fit, you are in baltimore????
*Night Spirit [HOST] | once again special thanks to KatieJ
Monk's Gypsy | I will NS, thank <soft smile>
Master of Leisure | I have cum in
| Baltimore....before...fit......wink....and
Master of Leisure | yes,,I would love to go to that place
fit to be tied | nope.... in NH... but was there for the summer munch
fit to be tied | LOL MoL
*Night Spirit [HOST] | neext week is worship
Master of Leisure | all yours....katie..smooooch
Pannddora | LOL Ohhhh ok, Aga and I will be flying in there in
| September
fit to be tied | so have i.... a few times.... go look at the report
| in HSX..<laffin>
MoL's Katie J | Sunday July 19th
MoL's Katie J | Worship
MoL's Katie J | -Many into the lifestyle are into worshipping,
| worship the Lord or Lady, or
MoL's Katie J | worship body parts. Discussion will include why we
| enjoy it or think it is
MoL's Katie J | important.
Master of Leisure | you are the keeper of the jewels...my little one
GrandPaDeSade[Host] | For diabeties, be carefull. You may not heal as
| well as others, especially the
GrandPaDeSade[Host] | feet.
*Night Spirit [HOST] | thanks Katie
SideWinder (Berlin) | hmm ... sounds interesting
GeorgeOTJ | Night all, kinky dreams
GrandPaDeSade[Host] | Kinky dreams to you too.
MoL's Katie J | huggggs, Grandpa and NS <S>
Master of Leisure | always special thanks to my katie....well
| done...love
*Night Spirit [HOST] | Pann you coming here in Sept.?
Monk's Gypsy | thank you Grandpa, Sir
Pannddora | Nope NS....we have a wedding to go to in September
| in PA
GrandPaDeSade[Host] | Night Katie. NS wants to talk to you later I think.
*Night Spirit [HOST] | Pann win the lottery then try to
Master of Leisure | will do..Fit..hmmm..HSX
GrandPaDeSade[Host] | Sweet dreams Gypsy
*Night Spirit [HOST] | I already did GrPa
Pannddora | You gotta deal NS, we win the lottery we will be
| there
*Night Spirit [HOST] | :)
fit to be tied | yep...<giggle>... a full report on the weekend
Monk's Gypsy | thank you Sir
GrandPaDeSade[Host] | OK, good then.
*Night Spirit [HOST] | MOL
Master of Leisure | yes....NS
MoL's Katie J | ok, Grandpa .. thanks :)
SideWinder (Berlin) | <takes his brown suede longcoat and finishes his
SideWinder (Berlin) | southy
*Night Spirit [HOST] | MOL check private
fit to be tied | thanks to all... and huggssssss all around
Monk's Gypsy | tschuss sidewinder
MoL's Katie J | NS ... you trying to cyber my Master??
MoL's Katie J | LOLOL
Master of Leisure | i did
SideWinder (Berlin) | tschüss gypsi
Master of Leisure | huggggs..fit......<s>...see ya in a abit
fit to be tied | <g>
SideWinder (Berlin) | <proudly points to the umlaut on german keyboard>
Pannddora | Huuuugggers all...talk to you soon
Monk's Gypsy | forgot to switch
Monk's Gypsy | ooops
Monk's Gypsy | lol
*Night Spirit [HOST] | lol
SideWinder (Berlin) | <g>
Pannddora | Uhm NS if you are trying to cyber him, record it
| and send out copies ROFL
*Night Spirit [HOST] | ok Pann
Monk's Gypsy | <-makes note to switch her keyboard
*Night Spirit [HOST] | Night all!
********** 7/12/98 6:13 PM End logging Sub Pub - D/s.