TOYS

********** 5/17/98  5:01 PM Begin logging Sub Pub - D/s.
      fit to be tied | i have never see this work like this before..<not 
                     | talking about the clamps>
        MoL's Katie  | huggggggggs, NS
     Lady WolfSpirit | lol fit
          be my love | would like a pic from someone
        MoL's Katie  | well, you know me .. I'm magic <g>
      fit to be tied | very magic hun...<wink>
*Night Spirit [HOST] | hugs hugs hugs all esp. to the best of the best 
                     | Katie
     Lady WolfSpirit | i got the pics and the sound files Katie...<S>
      fit to be tied | ROAR
      fit to be tied | that is TOOOOO funny
      fit to be tied | hugs NS
    ~lost toy robot~ | <falling out of her chair laffin>
      fit to be tied | huggggsssss spicee hun
    ~lost toy robot~ | huge hugs fit <SSSSSS>
      fit to be tied | how are you love?
                Leda | <wandering in>  Good evening, all
     Lady WolfSpirit | hugs NS
      fit to be tied | hugggsss Leda
      Lord Excalibur | Good evening Night Spirit and everyone else
        MoL's Katie  | hugggggs, Leda <S>
    ~lost toy robot~ | i've been better, fit
*Night Spirit [HOST] | good evening Lady WS and Leda
        MoL's Katie  | good evening, Lord Ex
                Leda | fit, Katie. <S>
      fit to be tied | ahhhhh...<hugging her tight>
*Night Spirit [HOST] | esp. good evening to you Lord E
          be my love | pat leda
        MoL's Katie  | I'm sending pics and sounds .. tell me if you dont' 
                     | get them <s>
      fit to be tied | ROFLMAO
     Lady WolfSpirit | hugggs Leda....LR
                Leda | Hello NS. :-)  Liked the home page very much, btw, 
                     | NS
                Leda | LWS <S>
      Lord Excalibur | thank you NS and good evening MoL Katie
     Lady WolfSpirit | hello Lord E...good to see you again...<S>
       Lady Rapunzel | <- just popped in.. on a Mac, so not much point in 
                     | me staying
                Leda | Rap <S>
      Lord Excalibur | and you LAdy W
                Leda | Ahh--Mac handicapped. <s>
        MoL's Katie  | sorry, Lady RAp <sigh>
*Night Spirit [HOST] | thanks Leda--for those who wish we have finally 
                     | made a bdsm page--for info
*Night Spirit [HOST] | email me or private send me
       Lady Rapunzel | S'ok.. <casually, nonchalant> Seen it all before
       Lady Rapunzel | <laughs>
        MoL's Katie  | I can mail you pics <g>
                Leda | It looks terrific, NS, and you have some good 
                     | links. :-)
       Lady Rapunzel | PLEASE, Katie <big smooch>
*Night Spirit [HOST] | thanks Leda I worked at it
                Leda | <G> Very nice, Katie.  This'll be fun
        MoL's Katie  | will do, Lovely Lady Rap
      fit to be tied | would love to take a look NS...<g>
                Leda | Oh--NS, that's very apparent. :-)
*Night Spirit [HOST] | thanks
       Lady Rapunzel | <- loves Katie J so much it hurts in my tummy
      fit to be tied | awwwww Lady R
                Leda | <--is hoping that M and I will be able to see you 
                     | bedroom wall "in the flesh"
                Leda | in Sept, NS :-)
         DC area (m) | hi room
        MoL's Katie  | there's a sound clip for GPDS
        MoL's Katie  | on the way
           *Spartan* | A good evening to 
                     | all...........................................
                 JOY | hi everyone
 GrandPaDeSade[Host] | Sounds good Leda
    ~lost toy robot~ | Evenin, Spartan, Sir....
*Night Spirit [HOST] | Leda I hope so too <ggl>
        MoL's Katie  | hugs and kisses, Spartan
                 JOY | hello again Lady R
                Leda | <S> Spartan
    ~lost toy robot~ | see any lost ones on channel?
 GrandPaDeSade[Host] | Yes Katie?
    ~lost toy robot~ | <giggling>
        MoL's Katie  | hello, Joy
    ~lost toy robot~ | they're lost again
 Janice Antionette4f | hi everyone
      Lord Excalibur | good evening GPDS
                Leda | <smiling at NS and GPDS> I am keeping my fingers 
                     | xed.
                 JOY | hi katie
     Lady WolfSpirit | hugs and smooches Spartan
       Lady Rapunzel | <- gropes Spartan
          MadAtTimes | greetings all
      fit to be tied | hugggsss Spartan...nice to see you agaon
   Erek&KisaE<Busy>  | Greetings to all
       Lady Rapunzel | <- groups Mad
       Lady Rapunzel | <- grapes Leda
          MadAtTimes | Roffles Rap
        MoL's Katie  | Hello, Erek and Kisa <S>
        MoL's Katie  | hugggggs, Mad
                Leda | <laffin> Katie
 GrandPaDeSade[Host] | Sounds like hriet nelson
      fit to be tied | huggsss Mad
          MadAtTimes | hi Erek and Kisa
     Lady WolfSpirit | got a question
          MadAtTimes | heyy fit hugggs
                Leda | Oooh--I like grapes, Rap ;-)
        MoL's Katie  | yes, Lady WS?
           *Spartan* | <smiles to all his friends>...just a wonderful 
                     | welcome........<adoring deep
           *Spartan* | sigh>.....
   *Michael's nikki* | Hiya everyone  <s>
       Lady Rapunzel | I knows what you likes, baby ;)
 GrandPaDeSade[Host] | Hariet even
                Leda | nikki <S>
*Night Spirit [HOST] | this should be fun today the discussion is toys 
                     | toys toys
       Lady Rapunzel | <- gripes nik
      Lord Excalibur | evening Spartan
      fit to be tied | <looking around.... hoping her dearest love makes 
                     | it>
                 JOY | toys toys??
 GrandPaDeSade[Host] | Hello LE
     Lady WolfSpirit | if i record text from here...will that save the 
                     | pics and sounds for me or do i
     Lady WolfSpirit | need to save each one individually?
    ~lost toy robot~ | toys? <giggling>>.....we are discussing Moi?
    ~lost toy robot~ | <laffin>
          MadAtTimes | <laffs wishes he could shed the years to become a 
                     | toy boy
                 JOY | ,likes toys
        MoL's Katie  | you need to save each one individually
      fit to be tied | down spicee girl
           *Spartan* | <opens up bag>.......................
       Lady Rapunzel | <- laughs at that idea, Mad
    ~lost toy robot~ | rofl fit
   *Michael's nikki* | Katei....did ay get my pics???
 GrandPaDeSade[Host] | Hello Lady R and the lost ones.
*Night Spirit [HOST] | Miss Katie will be showing you some and let's 
                     | discuss favorites shall we
     Lady WolfSpirit | <pouts>
          MadAtTimes | sounds like a plan NS
   Erek&KisaE<Busy>  | Hmmm.  Dom manual, Chapter 6 _Toys: Care and 
                     | Feeding thereof_ <g>
      fit to be tied | what's wring LWS?
*Night Spirit [HOST] | the toys are on our website and I will load this CO 
                     | into it
   *Michael's nikki* | Damn!  Trying again minus typos      Katie, did you 
                     | get MY pics???
    ~lost toy robot~ | i guess i will be representing the lost family, 
                     | GraPa, Sir...<curtsy>
        MoL's Katie  | no, nikki, I didn't
           *Spartan* | canes canes canes....<g>..
                  SM | how do we come by the website url ?
      fit to be tied | <snicker>
                Leda | Yep yep yep <G>
        MoL's Katie  | Everyone get the pic?
       Lady Rapunzel | Spartan, hon, that stutter is getting worse ;)
   *Michael's nikki* | <POUTTTT>  They should be with ya....I send 5 of 
                     | them
                 JOY | yes katie
*Night Spirit [HOST] | nikki send to me I will post them on my site with 
                     | this CO for address send me
          MadAtTimes | hmmmmm nice set of crops
*Night Spirit [HOST] | MAT those are crops
 GrandPaDeSade[Host] | Well, they have a good representative lost toy
             wry告lk | <rushes in>
*Night Spirit [HOST] | ok someone else guess?
       Beorn & suchy | follows her lovey
      fit to be tied | hugss wry wry
     Lady WolfSpirit | <smiles and waves hello to GrPa>
             wry告lk | huggggs fit <s>
                Leda | wry wry!!! <S>
   *Michael's nikki* | Thanks, NS......I have already sent 5 to Katie  
                     | <pout>
           *Spartan* | um , thought i did NS....
          MadAtTimes | lol NS *I* said crops
   Erek&KisaE<Busy>  | Crops <perk>
             wry告lk | hugggggs Leda.. you are definitely underadorned.. 
                     | <ggl>
 GrandPaDeSade[Host] | Crops are later.
                Leda | Starless <g>
   *Michael's nikki* | Switches???
 GrandPaDeSade[Host] | Hi lady Wolf
*Night Spirit [HOST] | no close very close
             wry告lk | Erek & Kisa!  <s>
       Lady Rapunzel | <- prefers under*dressed* (it's a theatre joke)
        MoL's Katie  | GrandPa, any thing you want to start with?
   Erek&KisaE<Busy>  | Hugs wry!
           *Spartan* | NS.............................
           *Spartan* | hurumph
*Night Spirit [HOST] | those pictures were fiberglass and acrylic canes
             wry告lk | <g> Rap.. thought that.. ah, nevermind..
           *Spartan* | well gee, i would never have thought
       Lady Rapunzel | <- never minds, really
                 JOY | look like crops to me
        MoL's Katie  | crops are on the way
 GrandPaDeSade[Host] | No, katie, since you have the pics, your choice.
     Lady WolfSpirit | damn LR...you mean we are supposed to mind??
           Sorrowful | Evening all
        MoL's Katie  | the last were canes, crops are coming <s>
*Night Spirit [HOST] | they give a harsh sharp feel when used, these are 
                     | for after the subject has had
*Night Spirit [HOST] | a little bit of warmup
       Lady Rapunzel | <laffin> *Pretend*, LWS, *pretend*
           *Spartan* | thinkin NS is avoiding me.......
                 JOY | hi sorrowful
 GrandPaDeSade[Host] | Those are crops
     Lady WolfSpirit | lol LR...do i have too??...
             wry告lk | huggggs S, glad that you found the place <s>
                Leda | Crops . . . yummy
                 Tom | I used the whips fer riding horses
          MadAtTimes | I'd have said crops too
       Lady Rapunzel | Uh huh, LWS
                 JOY | floggers?
 GrandPaDeSade[Host] | I do like seeing katie gagged.
*Night Spirit [HOST] | <--scrolled up and noticed Mr. spartan was right 
                     | <runs to spartan and licks all
      fit to be tied | good evening sorrowful
*Night Spirit [HOST] | his hairy parts>
     Lady WolfSpirit | lol NS
           Sorrowful | Hello fit
        MoL's Katie  | ya, Master likes it too, GrandPa
                 Tom | BTW evening peeps
 GrandPaDeSade[Host] | Floggers are coming.
   Erek&KisaE<Busy>  | Tag the flapper off most crops and you get a thin, 
                     | very stingy cane <shrug>
             wry告lk | o0ooo.. you greedy girl, MS
                Leda | Hello Tom
           *Spartan* | <g>...<SWATS>......u cuttie
             wry告lk | oops.. Ns
      Lord Excalibur | Someone posted about Toybag I have some of ther 
                     | floggers they are really made
      Lord Excalibur | well
   Erek&KisaE<Busy>  | Now I like those little crop/canes, mostly because 
                     | I like to see thin red lines
 GrandPaDeSade[Host] | Better shot of the crops
*Night Spirit [HOST] | we actually have about 10 crops, green, blue, red, 
                     | black, brown and of course
*Night Spirit [HOST] | PURPLE
     Lady WolfSpirit | mmmmmmmmmmm......
   Erek&KisaE<Busy>  | <=== Wishing we had the pictures to look at
                Leda | The middle crop looks interesting . . . feathers?
        MoL's Katie  | did someone say .. floggers?
*Night Spirit [HOST] | crops and canes do leave nice welts
      Lord Excalibur | don't tell Lady A about the purple one she will 
                     | want it
                otti | more pics
 GrandPaDeSade[Host] | No Leda, leather
 GrandPaDeSade[Host] | Leather flaps
   *Michael's nikki* | <<--- likes those!!!
                Leda | <g> Ahhhh.
       Lady Rapunzel | <voice over> "And today, Night Spirit is modelling 
                     | the latest in bdsm fashion.. and of course, her 
                     | accessories are all colour
       Lady Rapunzel | co-ordinated" <chuckle>
*Night Spirit [HOST] | no it is a horse crop with leather tassles used to 
                     | encourage a horse by a
*Night Spirit [HOST] | gentle tickle
           *Spartan* | <should have sent pics of my floggers>....oh 
                     | well......in heaven , im in
           *Spartan* | heaven,,,,,<g>
                 JOY | thats my favorite they are soft but really smart too
 GrandPaDeSade[Host] | Now floggers
          MadAtTimes | hmmmm noticed the crops looked like "made for D/s" 
                     | I prefer genuine
          MadAtTimes | riding crops
          MadAtTimes | ahhhh <zips lips>
 GrandPaDeSade[Host] | We have those too MAT
*Night Spirit [HOST] | those are some of the 32 floggers we have, made 
                     | from ribbon, deerhide, bull,
*Night Spirit [HOST] | cow, leather, suede, cloth
                Leda | Oh yes, Spartan--you have those lovely heavy 
                     | floggers
          MadAtTimes | great sound, great welts
           *Spartan* | <s>..leda, a few more on their way, being made as 
                     | we speak....
*Night Spirit [HOST] | MAT if memory serves except fir one crop all were 
                     | bought at a tack shop
 GrandPaDeSade[Host] | These pics are only a SMALL selection of our toys.
                otti | send pics
          MadAtTimes | OK OK OK
                otti | in action
 GrandPaDeSade[Host] | You should have a  save button when you view the 
                     | pics.
          MadAtTimes | ahhh this is more like it
*Night Spirit [HOST] | ok guess what those are
          MadAtTimes | tawse
*Night Spirit [HOST] | lol
       Beorn & suchy | I have a very heavy Heartwood flogger that not only 
                     | packs a great whollop on
       Beorn & suchy | suchy , but leaves nice marks too .. the tips  are 
                     | cut to a point, so it stings
       Beorn & suchy | like a bitch, as well .
             wry告lk | <laffing>
 GrandPaDeSade[Host] | I like your audio clips Katie
*Night Spirit [HOST] | any guesses what were the last .gifs of?
 GrandPaDeSade[Host] | Those are rather nasty leather slappers
             wry告lk | what is that?
                otti | send me action
      fit to be tied | ouch
       Lady Rapunzel | <- leaves quietly with thoughts of good old 
                     | traditional Scottish tawses...
 GrandPaDeSade[Host] | The one on the left has metal studs.
          MadAtTimes | well I would call them a tawse
*Night Spirit [HOST] | that one is a chain link flogger
      fit to be tied | <nodding>
 GrandPaDeSade[Host] | And that is a chain flogger
      fit to be tied | that has got to hurt
 GrandPaDeSade[Host] | Nice when left in the freezer
      Lord Excalibur | we have one of those it has rabbits fur on one side 
                     | and hide on the other it
      Lord Excalibur | leaves a lovely shaped mark
             wry告lk | what are the stringy things made of, NS?
      fit to be tied | OMG....<laffin>
*Night Spirit [HOST] | MAT be a love and send me an english defination of 
                     | toys :)
   *Michael's nikki* | <<==== brb
 GrandPaDeSade[Host] | Also good for terror play
   Erek&KisaE<Busy>  | chain? Be worried about more than yowie --- that 
                     | can cut
 GrandPaDeSade[Host] | Never really hit with it.
          MadAtTimes | <grins> OK NS
 GrandPaDeSade[Host] | Broken bones are not fun.
*Night Spirit [HOST] | the slappers? are all multi layers of leather
          MadAtTimes | nooo chain flogger is more for trailing and teasing
           *Spartan* | <cut>...PERK................
          MadAtTimes | especially for a blindfolded sub
      fit to be tied | <snicker<
      Lord Excalibur | The floggers made here NS are poor quality, thats 
                     | why I buy them in the US and
      Lord Excalibur | collect them when I come to see Lady A
                Leda | <laffin> Katie
      fit to be tied | ROFL
*Night Spirit [HOST] | the chain flogger is good for cold play..leave in 
                     | the fridge and put on subject
                 JOY | lol
     Lady WolfSpirit | lol
           *Spartan* | not me, i hate to cut, detest cutting...never in my 
                     | life would i ever...<cutest
           *Spartan* | innocent look>............
 GrandPaDeSade[Host] | I think I know him
          MadAtTimes | <laffin at latest pic
           Sorrowful | hhhhmmmmm
*Night Spirit [HOST] | hey isn't that---naw will be nice
      fit to be tied | sure sure Spartan..<g>
   Erek&KisaE<Busy>  | NS- not for kisa - she already breaks cuffs
     Lady WolfSpirit | rofl at the last pic...reminds her of 
                     | someone...<BFG>
                  SM | could use it in the same way as a bead necklace I 
                     | guess
*Night Spirit [HOST] | <--likes blood sports <innocent look> course I 
                     | drink the damn stuff
   Erek&KisaE<Busy>  | I can se that icy chain touching her and the whole 
                     | ceiling coming down
          MadAtTimes | <grins> nothing wrong will blood
 GrandPaDeSade[Host] | Braided strands with flat ends. good for rear ends.
      fit to be tied | sorry NS....but ICK...<laffin>
             wry告lk | you guys...?
*Night Spirit [HOST] | yes wry?
                 JOY | lol Grand Pa
*Night Spirit [HOST] | Erek I want the video of that
             wry告lk | perhaps it's this shitty monitor.. but I'm having 
                     | trouble figuring what these
             wry告lk | things are made of..
       Beorn & suchy | Katie ?
        MoL's Katie  | Beads
   Erek&KisaE<Busy>  | Mad - there is if you were a trained medic and the 
                     | sight of blood flicks ya outta Domspace and into 
                     | caretaker
     Lady WolfSpirit | beads....<S>
 GrandPaDeSade[Host] | Erek, build a special frame for her.
        MoL's Katie  | hugggggs, suchy
*Night Spirit [HOST] | wry most our toys are leather---I have copies of 
                     | these ohotos on my website
 GrandPaDeSade[Host] | Anal beads.
       Beorn & suchy | hugggs <S> when did you get a pic of suchys 
                     | exhusband ? hmm >?
*Night Spirit [HOST] | lol
       Beorn & suchy | I make our oewn anal beads  ...
          MadAtTimes | fair enough Erek - each to their own
   Erek&KisaE<Busy>  | Grandpa - she actually did pop a weries of rivets 
                     | -and- pull the upright pipe loose from the ceiling 
                     | at BTE one night
                 JOY | lol
        MoL's Katie  | lol .. thought it was mine .. hard to see the face.
 GrandPaDeSade[Host] | wry, we had to make the pics small or sending would 
                     | take forever.
*Night Spirit [HOST] | yes those are my personal anal beads...my opinion 
                     | is to get your own and not to
*Night Spirit [HOST] | share
           *Spartan* | <god, i knew i loved that woman...<suchana>...>
             wry告lk | I under stand that, GrPa..
          MadAtTimes | never share any toys NS
          MadAtTimes | ahhh paddles
             wry告lk | I'm just trying to get this stuff straight <g>
 GrandPaDeSade[Host] | Nope, cuffs.
   Erek&KisaE<Busy>  | NS- Any inseted item should be strictly one person's
   Erek&KisaE<Busy>  | insetable
           Sorrowful | wrist cuffs
   Erek&KisaE<Busy>  | inseRtable
   Erek&KisaE<Busy>  | GRRRrrrrrrr
     Lady WolfSpirit | lol
          MadAtTimes | hang on NS tiny pics and I run very high res here
       Beorn & suchy | < suchy says she loves you as well Spartan> LOL
          MadAtTimes | this is not fair
 GrandPaDeSade[Host] | Course there was a pizza paddle there.
*Night Spirit [HOST] | Erek I agree but many don't
          MadAtTimes | but def a paddle bottom right!
   Erek&KisaE<Busy>  | Where's a typing sub when ya need 'em???
            Lord Jim | <<-- back   <GPDS.....pics sent)
            Lord Jim | OOps!
           *Spartan* | well Beorn, just to make the beads....aaahhh, such 
                     | a dedication to her
           *Spartan* | needs.....a lucky man u r...<s>.....
   *Michael's nikki* | <<--- better   <S>
   Erek&KisaE<Busy>  | NS - I plan on surviving - and if they can't get 
                     | past the idiocy, think of it as Darminism in action
   Erek&KisaE<Busy>  | DarWin
   Erek&KisaE<Busy>  | Sheesh - I quit
 GrandPaDeSade[Host] | Pizza anyone. It covers all rear ends of all sizes.
       Beorn & suchy | He He He .....   very hard to sometimes locate 
                     | those large Super Balls,
       Beorn & suchy | Spartan <WEG>
        MoL's Katie  | I did the best I could with the pics . . I'm 
                     | limited in the size I can send <s>
        MoL's Katie  | ... but am getting better at editing ... got a lot 
                     | of practice for this CO
*Night Spirit [HOST] | oh yeah--yep we do have a pizza paddle to cover 
                     | everything
           Sorrowful | finger tip nails?
   *Michael's nikki* | What are *those*?
        MoL's Katie  | Abraiders, is the name of the file .....
        MoL's Katie  | what do you use those for GrandPa?
 GrandPaDeSade[Host] | Those are abraiders
                 JOY | <dont know what they are but can tell where i might 
                     | try to use one <eg
*Night Spirit [HOST] | yes Sorrowful that is right you wear on your 
                     | fingers--like cheese graters
 GrandPaDeSade[Host] | We call them cheese graters
 GrandPaDeSade[Host] | they are like them
          MadAtTimes | grins I'm gonna have to enlarge all these in 
                     | CorelDraw later
             wry告lk | owie..
   *Michael's nikki* | <winces>
*Night Spirit [HOST] | MAT check my site for them
      fit to be tied | nawww wry
 GrandPaDeSade[Host] | On fingers, rub on back. Good after a flogging
          MadAtTimes | ohhhh abrasion is great
      Lord Excalibur | Abode is better if you have it MAT
           *Spartan* | <--- has a great set of nails..............mmmmmmm
     Lady WolfSpirit | <shudders>
             wry告lk | good stuff, fit?
      fit to be tied | <wink>
          MadAtTimes | <has long nails naturally
*Night Spirit [HOST] | oh feels so good after a flogging like a harsh 
                     | massage
           *Spartan* | 3 inch aluminum.....sharpened nicely...<s>.
      Lord Excalibur | Lady A has wonderful nails, very long and hard
                 JOY | oohhh
             wry告lk | <making notes>
          MadAtTimes | great thing about abrasion - all sorts of ordinary 
                     | stuff lying about to use
*Night Spirit [HOST] | <--has normally 2" nails
 GrandPaDeSade[Host] | Another shot of the abraiders.
           *Spartan* | but mine are solid.........
          MadAtTimes | from chamois leather to coarse grit sandpaper
*Night Spirit [HOST] | yes MAT
            TazDevil | Hello everyone
       Beorn & suchy | chuckling ... the wench says those look like fun ..
 GrandPaDeSade[Host] | We have a paddle with rope glues to one side and 
                     | sandpaper on the other.
 GrandPaDeSade[Host] | Talons
          MadAtTimes | ohhhhh nice touch
             wry告lk | yikes!
      fit to be tied | yikes...<giggle>
*Night Spirit [HOST] | on our new BDSM page please if you want to have 
                     | your link on it, or a story or
*Night Spirit [HOST] | picture on it---please let me know
 GrandPaDeSade[Host] | Also for sensation sluts.
                 JOY | ow ow ow
          MadAtTimes | hmmmmmmm
     Lady WolfSpirit | OUCH
   *Michael's nikki* | OUCHIEEEEEE
            TazDevil | OOOpppppsssss!!
           *Spartan* | very nice NS.....................................
                Leda | Steel guitar picks work nicely as abraidors, in a 
                     | pinch. <g>  Especially if you
                Leda | sharpen 'em a little bit more.
      fit to be tied | notice how the men think its great
     Lady WolfSpirit | BIG TIME OUCH!!!...lol
           Sorrowful | <eg>
      fit to be tied | <laffin>
             wry告lk | the reaction seems unanimous..
       Beorn & suchy | < good tip Leda >
 GrandPaDeSade[Host] | yes they do leda
      Lord Excalibur | not saying anything <s>
          MadAtTimes | <grins will be off to geeetar shop tomorrow
      fit to be tied | OMG
       Beorn & suchy | Talons are pricey .. however ..
     Lady WolfSpirit | do i want to know what that is??
      fit to be tied | LOL
                Leda | Oh wow--that's scary and lovely, NS  :-)
     Lady WolfSpirit | <shudders>
           *Spartan* | beautiful...............................
                 JOY | look s like a bear trap
 GrandPaDeSade[Host] | How's that for giving someone the finger?
                  SM | you wouldnt want an itchy nose with that
   *Michael's nikki* | <PERK>
*Night Spirit [HOST] | our page is for our friends---we felt we needed a 
                     | place to show off--so please
*Night Spirit [HOST] | if you want something in it--even just your 
                     | snapshop--please contact me
      fit to be tied | LOL
                 JOY | omg
          MadAtTimes | can youlet me have the URL NS?
*Night Spirit [HOST] | oh that is my vampire claw
        MoL's Katie  | <please notice I am vewy vewy qwiet
          MadAtTimes | am I missing a pic here?
     Lady WolfSpirit | lol Katie
       Beorn & suchy | Pendraggon .. makes lovey talons such as those ..
        MoL's Katie  | lol
      fit to be tied | <also noting MoL is not here>
             wry告lk | <noticing that our Kate is vewy vewy quiet>
     Lady WolfSpirit | <kisses Elder>
 GrandPaDeSade[Host] | I'd like to have a full set of those, but they cost 
                     | way too much.
           Eldersign | :kisses the Wolf:
           Sorrowful | How much?
 GrandPaDeSade[Host] | The talons we do have a full set of.
       Beorn & suchy | agrees GP  ...
      fit to be tied | <looking at Sorrowful>
*Night Spirit [HOST] | the vampire claw is $160.00 each
   *Michael's nikki* | Can ya order them ???
     Lady WolfSpirit | <covers Elder's eyes so he dont get no ideas as far 
                     | as toys go>
   *Michael's nikki* | WOW
                 JOY | ow ow ow
      fit to be tied | don't even think about it
 GrandPaDeSade[Host] | The cost for a full set way slightly less than that 
                     | of the finger extension.
*Night Spirit [HOST] | yes from damn--GrPa what is the store's name it is 
                     | the same as their website
     Lady WolfSpirit | mmmm...now those i like....
                 JOY | ,perk>
 GrandPaDeSade[Host] | nikki, we could get them for you. E-mail us.
      fit to be tied | <thinking COLD>
          MadAtTimes | nice restraints - prison issue?
 GrandPaDeSade[Host] | leg shackles
 GrandPaDeSade[Host] | From a store near here.
             wry告lk | finally!  something that I recognize..
   *Michael's nikki* | Will do, GPDS  <hug>
             wry告lk | <laffing>
     Lady WolfSpirit | lol silk
        MoL's Katie  | that's how I felt when I was doing these, wry <G>
      Lord Excalibur | That reminds me must call my police man friend
      fit to be tied | congrats wry
*Night Spirit [HOST] | ok wry what is it?
 GrandPaDeSade[Host] | The vampire claw came from Hot topics at saremonte 
                     | NS
             wry告lk | lol.. cuff thingies, NS
           Sorrowful | They can be ordered from a company called GALLS, 
                     | good price...get the double
           Sorrowful | locking ones.
     Lady WolfSpirit | did that one already Katie
        MoL's Katie  | forgive me, for I have sinned.
       Beorn & suchy | you know ..  < sushy says   >   i am gonna have a 
                     | terrible time at work tonight
       Beorn & suchy | with all thosse damn restraints hanging up at the 
                     | Nurses Station ..... and
       Beorn & suchy | mumbling about midnight shift ..
        MoL's Katie  | <sigh>
 GrandPaDeSade[Host] | The cuffs again katie?
          MadAtTimes | may I ask if anyone has expereince of thigh cuffs?
     Lady WolfSpirit | lol Katie...
        MoL's Katie  | if you saw how many windows I have open, you'd 
                     | understand <G>
     Lady WolfSpirit | i have Mad....cant say as i liked them
 GrandPaDeSade[Host] | Collars
          MadAtTimes | seems an interesting idea - just wondered if they 
                     | lived up or down to
          MadAtTimes | expectations
*Night Spirit [HOST] | GrPa they are supposed to guess
                  SM | only velcro thigh cuffs, helps if she has thighs as 
                     | well
           Sorrowful | waist belt?
          MadAtTimes | hmmm princess collars
     Lady WolfSpirit | they are ok Mad....just not something i care for 
                     | much...
 GrandPaDeSade[Host] | I have used them MAT, but mine were stolen
   Erek&KisaE<Busy>  | MAd- they work best as attachment points for other 
                     | lines
*Night Spirit [HOST] | those are some of my collars :)
   Erek&KisaE<Busy>  | Thigh cuffs that is
          MadAtTimes | OK thanx Lady WS
                  SM | not really , just a belt works better
      fit to be tied | clever clamps
          MadAtTimes | cheers Erek - I kinda had that in mind
                 JOY | nipple clamps
      Lord Excalibur | now this something Lady A likes
          MadAtTimes | ohhh yes!
   *Michael's nikki* | clover clamps!!!
*Night Spirit [HOST] | fit--clovers
   *Michael's nikki* | woohooo
 GrandPaDeSade[Host] | Clover clamps for nipples
*Night Spirit [HOST] | yep
          MadAtTimes | now here's a question - which are best preferred?
                  SM | now they do work better, are there ones with softer 
                     | plastic in the jaws though ?
       Beorn & suchy | OOOOO my second favorite <S>
      fit to be tied | that too....<laffin>
          MadAtTimes | clover clamps
          MadAtTimes | parallel vices
          MadAtTimes | croc clips?
   *Michael's nikki* | <<---- adjustable clover clamps
      fit to be tied | very effective....
     Lady WolfSpirit | ok....for the idiot newbie here...how the hell do 
                     | you attach those??
   Erek&KisaE<Busy>  | Mad - my set is leather strapping and has several D 
                     | rings on each one at points around the 
                     | circumferance ---
                  SM | the clover clamps
                 JOY | the ones that are adjustable are good
 GrandPaDeSade[Host] | Depends on a lot of things MAT
             wry告lk | vewy vewy carefully, LWS <s>
*Night Spirit [HOST] | I perfer fingers to clamps--but like alot of clamps 
                     | and clips to play
*Night Spirit [HOST] | trivia--clamp the slave in interesting places
     Lady WolfSpirit | lol silk
 GrandPaDeSade[Host] | These are very nasty nipple clamps
          MadAtTimes | sounds like the ideal design Erek
                  SM | they all seem to be by the same manufacturer and 
                     | have hard plastic jaws that
                  SM | stick
   Erek&KisaE<Busy>  | the only problem is that to get them to stay, you 
                     | don have to snug em down pretty tight, which means 
                     | watching circulation
             wry告lk | the ones that she just showed, GrPa?
*Night Spirit [HOST] | those clips are like ice tongs--very tight and for 
                     | the true masochist
 GrandPaDeSade[Host] | Yes wry
          MadAtTimes | <has that type but with screw adjuster to vary grip
 GrandPaDeSade[Host] | Those are adjustable
*Night Spirit [HOST] | those are nice adjustible ones
                 JOY | yes those are the adjustable ones
                 JOY | <s>
 GrandPaDeSade[Host] | They have a screw that adjusts the bite
                  SM | I find if they arent spring loaded they slip off , 
                     | anyone notice the same ?
                 JOY | yes slip off ,noticed
      Lord Excalibur | yes agree SM
          MadAtTimes | <still making notes about thigh cuffs
 GrandPaDeSade[Host] | SM, just put them on tighter.
*Night Spirit [HOST] | that set there are the easy easy easy ones
 GrandPaDeSade[Host] | That set is milder.
 GrandPaDeSade[Host] | Weak springs
      Lord Excalibur | I think the easiest for thighs MAT are belts
           *Spartan* | <--- has a set of 3 clamps attached to leather 
                     | strips and in the form of a 'Y'
           *Spartan* | going to a central 'O" ring, two nor the nipples 
                     | and one adjusting on stap to
           *Spartan* | go to the clit at same time, u can also add weights 
                     | to the o  ring for tension
           *Spartan* | play..
          MadAtTimes | <grins can always take the lil protectors off the 
                     | jaws
*Night Spirit [HOST] | good for the beginning of the evening of a novice
        MoL's Katie  | now we're talking .. i'm a wimp.
        MoL's Katie  | lol
       Beorn & suchy | I like to use the clover clamps .. because I  have 
                     | more control over the
       Beorn & suchy | mamking suchana sit still .. she knows if she moves 
                     | .. they are just going to
       Beorn & suchy | get tight as all hell ..
 GrandPaDeSade[Host] | Each of those magnets weighs one Oz.
                 JOY | nite all thankls for p[ics Night Spirit  and Katie
      Lord Excalibur | I brought Lady A something similar Spartan but it 
                     | is jewelery rather than
      Lord Excalibur | leather
*Night Spirit [HOST] | thanks for coming Joy
   *Michael's nikki* | Yeahhh but feel slike one pound, GrPa!!!   LOL
 GrandPaDeSade[Host] | Six oz total each
                Leda | <laffin> nikki
*Night Spirit [HOST] | that's true those things seem more then a bloody 
                     | ounce
          MadAtTimes | <smiles lead fishing weights excellent to
          MadAtTimes | from 1 oz to 8 oz
 GrandPaDeSade[Host] | Night JOY
   Erek&KisaE<Busy>  | New fishing wieghts even come with their own little 
                     | attachemnt rings <g>
 GrandPaDeSade[Host] | The nerve wheel
      fit to be tied | loves that pinwheel
     Lady WolfSpirit | <shudders>
   *Michael's nikki* | <<=== LOVES that
          MadAtTimes | ahhhhhhh - pin wheels
           *Spartan* | <---has 2...they r great....
                Leda | Oh, yes, me too, fit. :-)
           Sorrowful | always wonders what its name was.
                  SM | best kept in the fridge as well
      fit to be tied | ROFL
  sexy black male uk | hi
          MadAtTimes | have one that is based on decorating roller has 
                     | four rows of brass spikes
*Night Spirit [HOST] | add the wheel with a violet wand for some nice 
                     | markings
       Beorn & suchy | Suchana is done typing for me,  I am sending her to 
                     | bed .. ( fihure I can typo
       Beorn & suchy | on my own )  suchy waves goodnight
 GrandPaDeSade[Host] | Wharburton Wheel i think.
      fit to be tied | ouch NS
   *Michael's nikki* | Okay!!! *where* do I get those from????
 GrandPaDeSade[Host] | That's it's head.
          MadAtTimes | a dress makers wheel does as well nikki
  sexy black male uk | hey what goingon
*Night Spirit [HOST] | nikki bought them at any leather shop
                  SM | from my toy box of course nikki
          MadAtTimes | as used for perforating the patterns
   *Michael's nikki* | Noted, Mad   Thanks
 GrandPaDeSade[Host] | Any medical supply house.
   *Michael's nikki* | Noted SM    <wink>
 GrandPaDeSade[Host] | They are used for testing the reflexes of people 
                     | with spinal damage
      fit to be tied | <--- does not have spinal damage...
*Night Spirit [HOST] | try using it after a good whipping
     Lady WolfSpirit | lol fit
      fit to be tied | <snicker>
 GrandPaDeSade[Host] | Slappers. Three and five layer.
           *Spartan* | specially over whiped nipples...oh my....
*Night Spirit [HOST] | GrPa how can they guess if you tell them the answers
          MadAtTimes | <grins> wonders if slapper has same meaning in US 
                     | as over here?
 GrandPaDeSade[Host] | OK, I'll wait.
        MoL's Katie  | probably not, Mad <G>
      fit to be tied | lol
      Lord Excalibur | lol MAT I'm UK to
                Leda | <laffin> NS, I bet he doesn't do that when you're 
                     | playing trivia, hmmm?
                  SM | a slapper for a slapper perhaps
   *Michael's nikki* | <looks at Spartan and had a sudden rush to return 
                     | to vanilla>  **NOT**
          MadAtTimes | hehehehehee SM
 GrandPaDeSade[Host] | Whell, what does it mean in the UK?
*Night Spirit [HOST] | they are stips of leather like belts 3-5 pieces 
                     | think---it is for heavy duty
*Night Spirit [HOST] | play---wondering why we have it?
      fit to be tied | yippee
           *Spartan* | aaahhh dear nikki, remember hon, never till ya try 
                     | it...<g>..
          MadAtTimes | ahhh a snake
       Beorn & suchy | I have a wheel that I haven't used on suchana but 
                     | it is better than the
       Beorn & suchy | standard whurtenberger wheel...
                  SM | slapper = a loose woman
                  SM | normally an ugly one as well
           Sorrowful | ahhh single tail
*Night Spirit [HOST] | MAT got it
      Lord Excalibur | loose? totaly undone
          MadAtTimes | at last!!!!!
   *Michael's nikki* | <smiles>  Ta!  Spartan
           *Spartan* | <eg>...
       Beorn & suchy | thats a cute little quirt
   Erek&KisaE<Busy>  | Drat - damn cats have decided that tonight they 
                     | have to fight and keep getting back into that fight
 GrandPaDeSade[Host] | Shot loaded black snake whip
*Night Spirit [HOST] | suchy and Beorn try a pizza wheel and cut clips 
                     | into it
   Erek&KisaE<Busy>  | I gotta go - see y'all next week
 GrandPaDeSade[Host] | 5 foot long
      fit to be tied | nite Erek and kisa
             wry告lk | night you two <g>
                Leda | Goodbye E and K
   *Michael's nikki* | Bye E&K
*Night Spirit [HOST] | seeya Erek and hugs to you and kisa
          MadAtTimes | K Erek and Kisa have fun
 GrandPaDeSade[Host] | Bye Erek & Kisa
*Night Spirit [HOST] | <--swat's Erek's cats
           Sorrowful | Nite E & K
      fit to be tied | yipes
 GrandPaDeSade[Host] | feather ticklers
*Night Spirit [HOST] | tickle tickle tickle
   *Michael's nikki* | <perk>  cats???
             wry告lk | <dare I ask>
                Leda | Leather, not feathers, right? <g>
                Leda | Ahhh <laffin>
     Lady WolfSpirit | <squirms>
 GrandPaDeSade[Host] | Whoops, hit return too fast
*Night Spirit [HOST] | no those are feathers
       Beorn & suchy | Hmm thats a nice simple idea... I just descovered 
                     | my new one... it's a hole
       Beorn & suchy | marker from tandy leather.. you can get them in 
                     | different hole per inch...
      fit to be tied | what is that?
                Leda | Oh my--what is that?
     Lady WolfSpirit | do i even want to know what that is??
                  SM | that looks like a japanese truncheon
             wry告lk | <laffing> LWS
                Leda | Sure ya do, LWS ;-)
          MadAtTimes | no idea what that is
   *Michael's nikki* | ditto (what fit said)
      fit to be tied | <laffin..glad she is not alone>
     Lady WolfSpirit | lol
*Night Spirit [HOST] | that fit is a bat with foam around it--very thuddy
 GrandPaDeSade[Host] | That's a solid core nerf bat
     Lady WolfSpirit | i dont know Leda
      fit to be tied | LOL
   *Michael's nikki* | Use???
                Leda | Ohhh--I just read about those on one of the links 
                     | from your homepage, NS and
                Leda | GrandPa
*Night Spirit [HOST] | on your ass nikki
           *Spartan* | <sighing and gettin all squirmy like>...i think i 
                     | will need to go to the city
           *Spartan* | this evening.....
   *Michael's nikki* | <weak smiles>  Thanks
          MadAtTimes | hmmmm good for solid, lifting, thumps
                Leda | <S>@Spartan
*Night Spirit [HOST] | Leda I love it, feels very thuddy and nice
      fit to be tied | <snickers at Spartan...> tina away hun?
 GrandPaDeSade[Host] | Ah, a visitor. Did you like our page Leda?
          MadAtTimes | especially over say a punishment stool
*Night Spirit [HOST] | yes she did GrPa
                Leda | Yes, GrandPa, very much--I was very impressed. :-)
*Night Spirit [HOST] | <--giggle
 GrandPaDeSade[Host] | Thank you.
      fit to be tied | wooden spoons
*Night Spirit [HOST] | yep
     Lady WolfSpirit | <squirms big time>
                  SM | is that a spoon or a plug on a stick ?
                Leda | :-)
 GrandPaDeSade[Host] | Always looking at things in a different way
                Leda | A brush?
*Night Spirit [HOST] | one is a small wooden spoon and the other is a big 
                     | wooden spoon like wall
*Night Spirit [HOST] | decoration
       Beorn & suchy | I need to biuld a nice horse for suchana...
      fit to be tied | ahhh... the things you can do with simple household 
                     | gadgets
 GrandPaDeSade[Host] | Wodden spoons
           Sorrowful | yes
 GrandPaDeSade[Host] | wood even
     Lady WolfSpirit | lol fit...egg beater??
     Lady WolfSpirit | rofl
      fit to be tied | my favorite LWS...LOL
   *Michael's nikki* | <<--- thought, when shopping with kimmie in 
                     | Glasgow, that she was buying
   *Michael's nikki* | KITCHEN utensils........my ass found out 
                     | differently later on in the evening!
   *Michael's nikki* | <ggl>
                Leda | <G>Wooden spoons . . . brings back my childhood 
                     | <laffin>  Italian discipline ;-)
                  SM | no , an egg beater cuts
           *Spartan* | <--- needs a new set of those............
           *Spartan* | tina ripped ours....<g>..
           Sorrowful | gloves?
       Beorn & suchy | LOL nikki
     Lady WolfSpirit | <whispers to Spartan>..what are those??
           *Spartan* | suspension gloves..
          MadAtTimes | teflon kitchen utensils - very springy
 GrandPaDeSade[Host] | Isolation gloves also used for suspension
   *Michael's nikki* | very f**** ouchie too, Mad   <remembering>
          MadAtTimes | lolol nikki
       Beorn & suchy | brb
           *Spartan* | Pag's had a lovely set from the UK when we saw him 
                     | on valentines , his had
           *Spartan* | posts thru the center for gripping on and helped 
                     | with the weight issues on the
           *Spartan* | rings.....
      fit to be tied | <blonde look>
     Lady WolfSpirit | <perks big time>
                Leda | Oh yes!  Those were terrific, weren't they, 
                     | Spartan. :-)
          MadAtTimes | grins - a cut throat razor
           *Spartan* | yes leda..
   *Michael's nikki* | <<==== seen them in Glagow, Spartan   <G>
          MadAtTimes | nikki should recognice that beings scots
 GrandPaDeSade[Host] | The good old fashioned straight edge.
*Night Spirit [HOST] | I have 4 antique razors--and I have a strop for 
                     | them also
   *Michael's nikki* | Arrg!  Suddenly remembers to book a waxing session!
           *Spartan* | i have a pearl handled razor, from my old barber, 
                     | got it when he retired, about
           *Spartan* | 50 years old, just wonderful.....
          MadAtTimes | grins - the strop is very usesful too
      fit to be tied | <really wants to ask... but won't>
           *Spartan* | ?
          MadAtTimes | ask fit
     Lady WolfSpirit | <--does too fit
      fit to be tied | <too afraid of the answer>
     Lady WolfSpirit | <BG>
             wry告lk | ask for us, fit
             wry告lk | <laffing>
 GrandPaDeSade[Host] | Katie, you can manage to pervert even the most 
                     | inocent sound clips. Good for
 GrandPaDeSade[Host] | you.
             wry告lk | please!
                Leda | <G>@ wry wry
           *Spartan* | maybe in priv fit, later...<s>
      fit to be tied | oh how did i get to be the sub ring leader 
                     | anyway...LOL
        MoL's Katie  | <deep curtsey>
     Lady WolfSpirit | lol silk
      fit to be tied | OMG
*Night Spirit [HOST] | ok guess what we do with those
   *Michael's nikki* | <<--- dieeeeeeeeeees
      fit to be tied | <laffin>... sure Spartan
             wry告lk | <sigh> S.. who do I get to hear the answer then..
          MadAtTimes | blading????
 GrandPaDeSade[Host] | We have two walls full of knives
   *Michael's nikki* | knife play???
          MadAtTimes | scarification?
*Night Spirit [HOST] | you should see what we didn't post--my blowgun with 
                     | real darts <wg> and some
*Night Spirit [HOST] | very nasty electric toys
     Lady WolfSpirit | OMG!!!
     Lady WolfSpirit | im in love!!!
     Lady WolfSpirit | <orgasms just looking at all the knives>
      fit to be tied | blow gun NS?
 GrandPaDeSade[Host] | A nice turkish beheading anyone?
                Leda | Like what, NS?
*Night Spirit [HOST] | MAT I wish I knew how to scar well---- yes fit
*Night Spirit [HOST] | we have a cattle prod, stun gun, violet wand, tens 
                     | unit and electric
*Night Spirit [HOST] | insertation toys
 GrandPaDeSade[Host] | Lady Wolf, those are a small part of our knives.
      fit to be tied | cattle prod.....OMG...<turing pale>
   *Michael's nikki* | Has anyone used one of those gadgety things that 
                     | pick up screw etc from
   *Michael's nikki* | engines.......kinda gripper like  (sharp)  OUCH!!!
      fit to be tied | turning even
          MadAtTimes | <lloks in toy box - looks at credit card and 
                     | apologises to it
     Lady WolfSpirit | <--wants to see more knives
     Lady WolfSpirit | <---is a knife/sword collector
           *Spartan* | ouch
          MadAtTimes | ahhh suspension stocks
 GrandPaDeSade[Host] | Where is my paddle when i need it.
           *Spartan* | damn
 GrandPaDeSade[Host] | We are too Lady Wolf
           *Spartan* | evening Dirk........
                Leda | Oh my . . . gorgeous
           *Spartan* | what, what, put it up again, i mised it...
                Leda | <laffin>  Mad . . . all you see is the hardware . . 
                     | . sheesh
   *Michael's nikki* | <looks at Spartans' booted tush>   <G>
      Lord Excalibur | not into knives been stabbed badly twice
   *Michael's nikki* | Hiya Dirk  <s>
 GrandPaDeSade[Host] | I cna understand then LE
           *Spartan* | hhhmmm, nikki....<g>
                Dirk | booted tush??
      fit to be tied | <laffin>
     Lady WolfSpirit | i only like to collect them Lord E....that as well 
                     | as crossbows
      Lord Excalibur | everyone to their own though
                Dirk | hey, gang
                Leda | Hello Dirk <s>
                Dirk | just looked in for a minute
*Night Spirit [HOST] | hiya Dirk
          MadAtTimes | lol Leda but of course - now who I see in that 
                     | hardware <G> we all
          MadAtTimes | know the answer to that
        MoL's Katie  | hugs, Dirk
      fit to be tied | hugssssss Dirk....<GGG>
      Lord Excalibur | I do as well LAdy I collect swords
          MadAtTimes | heys Dirk
                Leda | <G>@MaT
           *Spartan* | missed that last pic.......................shyt....
           Sorrowful | Greetings Dirk
      Lord Excalibur | needless to say I have an Excalibur
     Lady WolfSpirit | <smiles at Lord E>
             wry告lk | evening, Dirk <s>
*Night Spirit [HOST] | Katie do the last picture again if you can for 
                     | Spartan
   *Michael's nikki* | I'll send it to ya, Spartan
        MoL's Katie  | sure
      Lord Excalibur | its knives I don't like
   *Michael's nikki* | Ooops!
           *Spartan* | <s>.....NS.....
     Lady WolfSpirit | i am in the process of trying to acquire one Lord E
          MadAtTimes | <has saved every pic for fan <G>
           Eldersign | :grins:
      Lord Excalibur | realy, where are you
   *Michael's nikki* | <SWOONS>
      fit to be tied | <turning pale...> ick!!!!
           *Spartan* | a lovely wrap.....<sigh>..
        MoL's Katie  | there ya go, Spartan <S>
 GrandPaDeSade[Host] | Lady Wold, there are full shots of our two weapons 
                     | walls in the D/s gallery.
     Lady WolfSpirit | dont even think about it Elder ..<narrows eyes>
 GrandPaDeSade[Host] | Wold=Wolf
     Lady WolfSpirit | thank you GrPa...i will have to check it out
   *Michael's nikki* | <<-- puts that down on her list of "please, Sir's"
           Eldersign | Too late for that. :cheerful:
*Night Spirit [HOST] | anyone here every try wrapping?
           *Spartan* | yes.....
     Lady WolfSpirit | <growls at Katie for showing that one>
          MadAtTimes | <no sense of rythym LOL
      fit to be tied | <--- has a real problem with it
      Lord Excalibur | Tintagel is the best place for them Lady but you 
                     | have to shop around there are
      Lord Excalibur | some crappy ones about
     Lady WolfSpirit | yes Lord E...i know...<S>
          MadAtTimes | ahhhh Tintagel - remember it well
     Lady WolfSpirit | <whispers to Elder>....you have just seen a pic of 
                     | my limits
          MadAtTimes | ahhhh yessssss - at last a harness
 GrandPaDeSade[Host] | <-----Loves chains
           Eldersign | :did some wrapping at Backdrop...was fun, but
           Eldersign | crude...unsudtrial shrink wrap:
      Lord Excalibur | if you can't find a good one Lady W I will go to 
                     | TIntagel and get one and ship
      Lord Excalibur | it for you
*Night Spirit [HOST] | Backdrop?  elder where do you live?
           *Spartan* | <--- adores chains as well....GPDS........
     Lady WolfSpirit | thank you Lord E....<S>...i will let you know
             wry告lk | ANOTHER one that I recognize!!
          MadAtTimes | damn I didn't save the harness - tooo busy drooling
           Eldersign | I live in Livermore for 11 years, NS.
           *Spartan* | oh my............ZIPPER 
                     | time...................ROFL...
        MoL's Katie  | lolol, wry <g>
 GrandPaDeSade[Host] | The handy clothes pin. Always good for a little fun.
   *Michael's nikki* | OUCH!!!!!  <suddenly remembers G-gow again>
     Lady WolfSpirit | mmmmm.....love clothespins
   *Michael's nikki* | LOL Spartan
       *Miss Carole* | Evenin' folksiesss   <S>
           Eldersign | Lived.
*Night Spirit [HOST] | Elder oh hell I am right near Pacifica
      Lord Excalibur | mine cost $350 about 4 years ago but it is very good
          MadAtTimes | heyas Miss C
                Leda | Hey Miss C <s>
 GrandPaDeSade[Host] | <-------still loves chains.
           Eldersign | I know. :Grin:
          MadAtTimes | <coughs harness again please NS
       *Miss Carole* | <wavin' ta all the loved ones>
     Lady WolfSpirit | damn...i like that one
                Leda | These all friends of yourn, NS and GPDS?  Ya sure 
                     | do have some pretties, if so.
                Leda | <S>
       *Miss Carole* | you know who you are <weg>
     Lady WolfSpirit | i like those chains.....
      Lord Excalibur | now I would love to take more chains with me but 
                     | the security people at the
      Lord Excalibur | check in get ratty  <s>
           *Spartan* | outline both breasts with 30 clothspins n zipper 
                     | them off....oh
           *Spartan* | my....................
*Night Spirit [HOST] | no that isn't but I do have a few other pictures of 
                     | her--she gets around
                Leda | <g>
           Eldersign | :waves to Carole:
 GrandPaDeSade[Host] | MAT, you can scrool back up and reselect it
          MadAtTimes | I run wincim 2
             wry告lk | <refuses to ask one more stupid question>
     Lady WolfSpirit | <snuggles Elder.....covering his eyes once 
                     | again...thinking he has enough ideas
     Lady WolfSpirit | in that sadistic head of his...<BG>
          MadAtTimes | and have closed each image after delivery
      fit to be tied | laffin
           Eldersign | Heck, this is good stuff...
*Night Spirit [HOST] | actually my friends hate to have their pictures 
                     | taken if their faces show--why
*Night Spirit [HOST] | I have alot under lock and key--like Friday nights
             wry告lk | got an error on that one..
 GrandPaDeSade[Host] | No Leda, the picts of our friends we keep to 
                     | ourselves. These are not ours Just
 GrandPaDeSade[Host] | the toys.
           Eldersign | ...nice to see an expert's virw. :chuckle:
           *Spartan* | <sighing>..
        MoL's Katie  | yes, the others are from my personal collection 
                     | <wink>
      fit to be tied | <-- wants to see KJ's collection
      fit to be tied | <laffin>
             wry告lk | was that the same one, Kate?
           Eldersign | :knows Katie has 1100 megs of "personal collection"
*Night Spirit [HOST] | ok all now what is YOUR favorite toy?
        MoL's Katie  | <weg>
                Dirk | personal collection??
       *Miss Carole* | <ponders> ..
        MoL's Katie  | yes, Dirk <s>
          MadAtTimes | hmmmmm difficult choice
      fit to be tied | <laffin>
       *Miss Carole* | Hmm ..my newest toy would be my fav ..
*Night Spirit [HOST] | only can pick one
     Lady WolfSpirit | <--wants to go back to the wall of knives...<BG>
       *Miss Carole* | The Greek boy toy ..<weg>
          MadAtTimes | has to be the cat then
*Night Spirit [HOST] | what is it Miss C?
           Eldersign | The shrink wrap is great...but prolly the slappers.
*Night Spirit [HOST] | oh oh oh Miss C
        MoL's Katie  | unfortunately, my favorite toy is the phone right 
                     | now <wink>
     Lady WolfSpirit | the shrink wrap is NOT great....
           *Spartan* | ROAR...............
             wry告lk | <laffing>
*Night Spirit [HOST] | <--wants a good cat
 GrandPaDeSade[Host] | My favorite toy is NS
       *Miss Carole* | <winkin' at Sparty>
   *Michael's nikki* | I enjoy most of my toys but as a 
                     | fav.....hmmm......the Tens!
      fit to be tied | <biting her tounge>
*Night Spirit [HOST] | <--blushing
        MoL's Katie  | one does what one must, fit <g>
                Leda | <--likes a good thuddy flogger :-)  Or wax. <g>
           Eldersign | :glances at LWS: Be nice...I KNOW there an 
                     | industrial
           Eldersign | supply house in Corpus.
       *Miss Carole* | <biting fits tongue ..wondering what she is biting 
                     | ... ??>
          MadAtTimes | hang on I can have two - coz the cat works best in 
                     | conjunction with the
          MadAtTimes | ceiling hooks!
      fit to be tied | mmmmmmmm?
 GrandPaDeSade[Host] | The other things just enhance the fun I have with NS
*Night Spirit [HOST] | my favorite is still my black flogger it feels so 
                     | good
      fit to be tied | ...<laffin>
           *Spartan* | Carole, as always hon, whatever it is u need, i can 
                     | surely provide to my oldest
           *Spartan* | and dearest friend...<wfeg>...
 GrandPaDeSade[Host] | But NS and my fingers make a good play time too.
      Lord Excalibur | noe GPDS I have to agree totally
 GrandPaDeSade[Host] | <--The human nipple clamp
       *Miss Carole* | <feelin' a shiver crawl over me>
      Lord Excalibur | noe -now
       *Miss Carole* | LOL.. Grandpa
           Eldersign | Nice 500 foot roll of shrink wrap with a handle for 
                     | 39 bucks.
                Leda | <laffin>  That one's a keeper, Katie
*Night Spirit [HOST] | eeeeeeeeeekkkkkkkkkkkkk I am covered in bruises 
                     | from your fingers and teeth
          MadAtTimes | <grins> ya know you can lift someone of the ground 
                     | with a good
          MadAtTimes | overbite!
           *Spartan* | but it is only good if u use cinnamon oil under it 
                     | Elder...<g>...
*Night Spirit [HOST] | MAT he has these pins in his teeth
      fit to be tied | lol Mad
*Night Spirit [HOST] | they are a bitch
      fit to be tied | pins? <perk>
          MadAtTimes | <is thinking of investing in liquid latex for 
                     | sealing in the heat
           *Spartan* | then wrap, ya know, just ta keep the heat in a 
                     | bit.....lol
 GrandPaDeSade[Host] | Don't know what you are talking about NS. (Hehe)
*Night Spirit [HOST] | yep metal pins sticking up from his teeth like 
                     | needles
                Leda | Yikes, MaD <laffin>
             wry告lk | I'll bet that it's more than a bit..
           Eldersign | :chuckles: I am clean out...got one bottle of 
                     | wintergreen oil
           Eldersign | here, and nothing else.
      fit to be tied | nice timing KJ
        MoL's Katie  | thank you.
*Night Spirit [HOST] | before we go much further Ladies and Gentlemen 
                     | please thank Miss Katie for all
*Night Spirit [HOST] | her hard work tonight
      fit to be tied | thanks KJ... that was great
                Dirk | <kisses> Katie
          MadAtTimes | <stands and bows in Katies direction
           Sorrowful | Thank you KJ.
 GrandPaDeSade[Host] | That was good Katie, You were waiting for 
                     | something, weren't you?
        MoL's Katie  | <deep curtsey>
   *Michael's nikki* | (((((((*^* Katie *^*))))))))  <kotc>  Good job, hon
           Eldersign | :applauds Katie:
           *Spartan* | <--- just got a new bottle of 200 cin oil.....oh my 
                     | my..., but for the wrap,
           *Spartan* | that would not be good....<s>
                Leda | thank you, Katie <kotc>
      Lord Excalibur | well done Katie J
        MoL's Katie  | Thanks for taking the pics, Grandpa ... couldnt' 
                     | have done it without you.
        MoL's Katie  | <S>
*Night Spirit [HOST] | my special thanks to our little sis who made this 
                     | one fun CO
 GrandPaDeSade[Host] | No problem.
           Eldersign | Grandpa...Katie's been drooling over those pictures 
                     | all week.
 GrandPaDeSade[Host] | Just wish we had more time for more.
          MadAtTimes | yes excellent pics
        MoL's Katie  | well, we could do this again
 GrandPaDeSade[Host] | Didn't get the spreader bars and the . . .
*Night Spirit [HOST] | Elder shame you don't sub--I could use them on ya
        MoL's Katie  | you have the toys for it <G>
                 Tim | hi all
       Beorn & suchy | Sorry all ... got booted ....
           Eldersign | Yup...shame.
       *Miss Carole* | <gigglin' wildly>
*Night Spirit [HOST] | oh Katie have the box of clips?
*Night Spirit [HOST] | hiya Tim
     Lady WolfSpirit | <pouts cause she got booted>
       Beorn & suchy | where were we
          MadAtTimes | <looks at time - YIKES - OK all have to run here
                Marc | Hi Guys
          MadAtTimes | has been fun as usual
       *Miss Carole* | Evenin' Tim ..<warm smile> ...
      fit to be tied | nite Mad hun... hugs
        Master Tiggs | thats better
 GrandPaDeSade[Host] | Elder, I beleive that.
                Dirk | g'night, Mad
       *Miss Carole* | Hiya Marc.
          MadAtTimes | nite fit hugggggs <S>
      Lord Excalibur | Nite Mad
*Night Spirit [HOST] | Night MAT and thanks
                Leda | Good night, Mad :-)
        MoL's Katie  | a rose for the gents coming up <s>
        Master Tiggs | is it just strting or just finishing
           Sorrowful | Nite MAT
          MadAtTimes | nite Dirk
       Beorn & suchy | actually .. i wondered away from the system too 
                     | long and Cs dropped me...
          MadAtTimes | nite LE
     Lady WolfSpirit | <snuggles back up to Elder>
   *Michael's nikki* | Bye Mad......<giggling cos he seems to be in a 
                     | 'panic' to leave>   Uh hu!!!
   *Michael's nikki* | <wink>
          MadAtTimes | nite Leda <S>
                Marc | Hi Miss Carole
 GrandPaDeSade[Host] | Night mad.
     Lady WolfSpirit | what pic did i miss??
        MoL's Katie  | <saying good night to the gagged one now>
          MadAtTimes | lol nikki I get up for work in 4 hours
 GrandPaDeSade[Host] | That one L like.
           Eldersign | GrandPa...I'd be a lousy sub...I start screaming 
                     | way too
           Eldersign | early.
 GrandPaDeSade[Host] | L=I
      Lord Excalibur | me to
*Night Spirit [HOST] | nice rose Katie
           Eldersign | :chuckle:
                Leda | What an, ah, artfully placed rose <BG>
      fit to be tied | <giggle>
          MadAtTimes | now that IS romantic <S>
 GrandPaDeSade[Host] | Me too
           Sorrowful | lovely
        Master Tiggs | mmmmm
   *Michael's nikki* | Oh yeah!  <staring nonchalantly at her nails>   
                     | Night, Mad  <g>
*Night Spirit [HOST] | Eldersign THAT is why agas were made
     Lady WolfSpirit | very nice....
        MoL's Katie  | thought you would like it <s>
        Master Tiggs | is conference starting or finishing
*Night Spirit [HOST] | agas=gags
   *Michael's nikki* | <pout>  Where are the thorns, Katie???
           Beorn (s) | very nice... loved that jpg
*Night Spirit [HOST] | ending Tiggs
        Master Tiggs | sigh
          MadAtTimes | night GrandPa
          MadAtTimes | nite nikki
        MoL's Katie  | thank you all very much for coming <S>
        MoL's Katie  | my fingers are tired though <s>
          MadAtTimes | hugggs to Katie and NS
      Lord Excalibur | thanks for all your hard work Katie
        Master Tiggs | ummm
                Marc | Would someone be so kind to fill me in on what's 
                     | happening here?
     Lady WolfSpirit | thank you Katie....once again...you did a wonderful 
                     | job hon
       *Miss Carole* | aww, poor widdle katie cakes
        MoL's Katie  | using a CatPad instead of a mouse
        Master Tiggs | could sone one send the pics again,,Katie ??
           Beorn (s) | Thank you Katie... very nice pics
*Night Spirit [HOST] | hugd MAT
*Night Spirit [HOST] | Tiggs read your sends from me
        MoL's Katie  | i've already gone offline with the Producer, Master 
                     | Tiggs .. I'm sorry.
           Sorrowful | Very nice, I'm glad I came by.
           Beorn (s) | Thanks Ns.. nice to see you and GP again
 GrandPaDeSade[Host] | I got killed. Whgat did I miss?
        MoL's Katie  | nice to have you join us, Sorrowful
             wry告lk | glad that you did too, Sorrowful..
                Leda | Katie and GPDS and NS, thank you all so much. :-)  
                     | Laters all.  See some of you
                Leda | in the room later, maybe. :-)
        MoL's Katie  | great to have you with us, Beorn <s>
      fit to be tied | good nite sorrowful
           Sorrowful | Thanks KJ & wry
       *Miss Carole* | Gawd, usin' this nick here .. I'm never gonna get 
                     | any peace now!
       *Miss Carole* | <LOL>
                Marc | Have a nice time, guys. Bye.
     Lady WolfSpirit | <pouts cause she wants to see more knives>
           Sorrowful | nite ftbt
 GrandPaDeSade[Host] | Thank you all. It wouldn't be anything without all 
                     | of you.
*Night Spirit [HOST] | this has been fun and as always thanks to all of 
                     | you for making it happen
      fit to be tied | laffin at LWS
      fit to be tied | fit
      fit to be tied | you know that
           Beorn (s) | suchana would be sending huggs and kisses but sees 
                     | in bed
             wry告lk | thanks, you guys <s>
   *Michael's nikki* | Is it toooo late is ask some of the proper uses of 
                     | some of the toys....the
   *Michael's nikki* | drawbacks and benefits ???
      Lord Excalibur | thanks GPDS and NS
             wry告lk | night Master B-e-o-r-n <g>
           Beorn (s) | <g> Night wry wry
 GrandPaDeSade[Host] | NS, I hope you or Katie recorded it. When i got 
                     | killed, my recording went too.
 GrandPaDeSade[Host] | No nikki, go ahead.
*Night Spirit [HOST] | no nikki but I think we plan another toy 
                     | night---best things are to try them on
*Night Spirit [HOST] | yourself first, go slow and build up to happiness
      Lord Excalibur | if they didn't GPDS I have been recording
*Night Spirit [HOST] | yes GrPa
        MoL's Katie  | I recorded.
   *Michael's nikki* | <smiles>  Thanks, NS
*Night Spirit [HOST] | I will post it here and in the site
     Lady WolfSpirit | <looks at Elder>...you really wouldnt do the wrap 
                     | thing would you??...<gulps
     Lady WolfSpirit | big time>
           Eldersign | Well, we can always start with a partial.
           Eldersign | :innocent:
     Lady WolfSpirit | <--thinks she will go back to being Domme thank you 
                     | very much...
       *Miss Carole* | <<Gigglin'>>
     Lady WolfSpirit | <BG>
   *Michael's nikki* | <looks at LWS>  Don't you think you'd enjoy it?
           Eldersign | Oh...you going to ask permission?
*Night Spirit [HOST] | <--wants to see LWS in wrappings
     Lady WolfSpirit | hell no i wouldnt nikki...<shudders at the thought>
      Lord Excalibur | well my friends I must away nice to have seen you 
                     | all again see you later I hope
     Lady WolfSpirit | lol Elder..of course!!!
           Eldersign | Forget it.
     Lady WolfSpirit | take care Lord E...<S>
 GrandPaDeSade[Host] | Night LE
   *Michael's nikki* | <<---- <swoons at the thought>
        MoL's Katie  | Good night, Lord E
      Lord Excalibur | nite everyone
   *Michael's nikki* | Night LE  <smiles>
     Lady WolfSpirit | oooohhh...pleeeeaaaassseeee Master??...may i go 
                     | back to being Domme???...<very
     Lady WolfSpirit | sweet subbie like smile>
           Sorrowful | Goodnighte LWS.
     Lady WolfSpirit | good night sorrowful..<S>
 GrandPaDeSade[Host] | Night nikki
      Lord Excalibur | thanks again Kate GPDS & NS
                Dirk | g'night LE
           Eldersign | God...I heard THAT before.
     Lady WolfSpirit | lol
        MoL's Katie  | on Elder, I hope, LWS
           Eldersign | :stares at Carole: You coaching her?
        MoL's Katie  | <grinning like a fool>
     Lady WolfSpirit | <--does NOT need a coach thank you very 
                     | much....<sticks tongue out at Elder>
     Lady WolfSpirit | <then runs like hell from the room>
           Eldersign | We know what you do need, though...don't we?
   *Michael's nikki* | <suddenly feeling 'small' surrounded bu *upper 
                     | case* folk>
     Lady WolfSpirit | <grins>
             wry告lk | lol.. I'm here nik
        MoL's Katie  | good night <s>
                dirk | better, nikki?
   *Michael's nikki* | <runs over and hugs wry>  Phew!!
      fit to be tied | hugggssss KJ
      fit to be tied | stop that DIrk
   *Michael's nikki* | ROFLMAO   On yer knees, dirk!!
      fit to be tied | <getting confused>
     Lady WolfSpirit | hugggs Katie...
      fit to be tied | LOL
             wry告lk | <pssst.. we gotta stick together <gasp>>
                Dirk | not a chance, nikki <wink>
     Lady WolfSpirit | lol dirk
   *Michael's nikki* | Arrggg!
             wry告lk | did you say that nik?
   *Michael's nikki* | Moi??
           Eldersign | :shrink wrap them together:
     Lady WolfSpirit | lol
                Dirk | <g> LWS
   *Michael's nikki* | <sticking to wry like glue>
             wry告lk | <you'd better behave ms nik>
      fit to be tied | i am here to nikki...nikki the witch that is
   *Michael's nikki* | Yes, Ma'am
             wry告lk | <laffing>
   *Michael's nikki* | <G> fit   Hey...you know my spells work!!
     Lady WolfSpirit | <thinks she needs to hypnotise Elder and get that 
                     | wrap thing out of his head>
             wry告lk | <looking for the Ma'am>
      fit to be tied | they work great... just with some lag time
           Eldersign | :loves shrink wrap:
             wry告lk | she did do good, didn't she, fit?
   *Michael's nikki* | Wouldn't you even *try* it, LWS?
      fit to be tied | <gets hives thinking of shrink wrap>
     Lady WolfSpirit | <looks at Elder>...you are getting very 
                     | sleepy....<BG>
      fit to be tied | she did great wry...<BFG>
           Eldersign | Dream on.
             wry告lk | I think that would be a good one, actually..
      !PhantomKnight | <glides in quickly..looking high and low for crick>
     Lady WolfSpirit | no nikki i wouldnt....im claustophobic big time
             wry告lk | the shrink wrap that is..
     Lady WolfSpirit | i would go crazy if wrapped like that
     Lady WolfSpirit | <shudders>
   *Michael's nikki* | "lag time"......sheesh!   Grumbling subbie!!
             wry告lk | I'll never look at that machine in quite the same 
                     | way.. <laffing>
      fit to be tied | <---greedy sub....
      !PhantomKnight | anyone seen crick?
             wry告lk | <-- cheeky sub
      fit to be tied | nope PK...sorry hun
   *Michael's nikki* | <<--- REALLY wants to try it
             wry告lk | <nodding> me too nik...
      !PhantomKnight | hmmmmm......no e-mail from here either.....
     Lady WolfSpirit | not me...i couldnt handle it at all....
                Dirk | <taking notes>
             wry告lk | if you are phobic.. that's certainly 
                     | understandable, LWS
      !PhantomKnight | well if you seen her...tell her I was here looking 
                     | for her
     Lady WolfSpirit | <hopes Elder is taking notes>
   *Michael's nikki* | I think the feeling of total helplessness and 
                     | vunerability would only enhance
   *Michael's nikki* | the scene
      fit to be tied | <looking at Dirk... afraid of his notes>
           Eldersign | :glances at LWS:
     Lady WolfSpirit | not me nikki...i would feel like i was suffocating
      !PhantomKnight | byee
      fit to be tied | nite PK
           Eldersign | Remember...anything unpleasant is a punishment tool.
   *Michael's nikki* | I am the same about heights, LWS
             wry告lk | and you probably would be, Lady.. don't feel badly 
                     | about it..
           X69sXe69X | hey...
     Lady WolfSpirit | that is more than just unpleasant Elder.....that 
                     | would....push me too far past
     Lady WolfSpirit | my limits....
     Lady WolfSpirit | i would snap on that one
           X69sXe69X | ?
   *Michael's nikki* | <click>
           Eldersign | Sorry...we don't do precognition, Barbara...if I 
                     | decide, you
           Eldersign | will submit.
                Dirk | then it's a limit that needs identifying, LWS.... 
                     | best to
                Dirk | really talk those through...
      fit to be tied | thank you
     Lady WolfSpirit | no Elder...for that, i would not submit
           X69sXe69X | hmmmmm.....
           X69sXe69X | uhhhh, ok....
           Eldersign | We shall see.
   *Michael's nikki* | GOD   <giggling>
             wry告lk | <shivering at that tone>  I'm off to 10, friends, 
                     | see you there...
           Eldersign | And I question discussing it here, darling. :looks 
                     | at you:
   *Michael's nikki* | Cy awry.....
     Lady WolfSpirit | no...in this case, i am adament about.....there is 
                     | bondage, then there is
     Lady WolfSpirit | suffocation....
                Dirk | g'night, all
   *Michael's nikki* | Night Dirk  <kotc>
             wry告lk | <mumbling to herself on the way out the door> 
                     | Dom's... <shaking head>
   *Michael's nikki* | Racing wry back to 10
   *Michael's nikki* | By efolks
                Dirk | good CO, NS and GrPa and Katie
     Lady WolfSpirit | <looks at Elder and closes her mouth>
           Eldersign | Scoot.
     Lady WolfSpirit | to??
           Eldersign | !0.
       *Miss Carole* | Bye everyone <S>
     Lady WolfSpirit | yes Sir
     Lady WolfSpirit | <waves to everyone>
           Eldersign | Later, all.
           Eldersign | Thank you for a nice conference.
      fit to be tied | dusting her butt off
                Dirk | I see by the Who's Here that you are beside
                Dirk | yourself, fit
      fit to be tied | LOL
      fit to be tied | yep
      fit to be tied | just me
********** 5/17/98  6:37 PM End logging Sub Pub - D/s.